[hungryforcodes]

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[sho_hn]

The situations aren't really comparable. Yes, there has been a noticeable uptick of intra-gender conflict and discourse in South Korea for the last 5 years. But I'd rank it as a minor factor in the general marriage and childcare apathy or inability. As for the conflicts themselves, the starting conditions and challenges for both gender roles are very different from the West, and Korea's feminism is also not the West's feminism.

(I'm not Korean, but I've lived there for some years, can communicate in the language and read the news, and am married to a South Korean citizen with a child on the way; the latter is one of the reasons we moved away.)

[HelloMcFly]

> western style feminist politics

Care to explain precisely what you mean in this context? Because it's hard not to see this as a dog-whistle for "why can't women just be happy with the caretaker role?" but perhaps you mean something more benign.

[hungryforcodes]

I'm just reporting what I've been told by Koreans I've met. The problem doesn't seem to exist in older generations.

Happy if Koreans could chime in.

[infecto]

I am by no means an expert but I would classify this as misogyny that is rampant in a lot of asian countries. Especially for a number of the developing countries, including Korea, women are still very much seen as property.

[hungryforcodes]

I did mention that a conflictual approach to relationships-- as opposed to a collaborative one -- created problems for both men and women in this age group to find partnerships.

[Fauntleroy]

I wouldn't necessarily call it "fueled by western style feminist politics", when it is fueled as much (or even moreso) by "western style incel politics". Furthermore, while it most certainly is an issue over there, it's not so widespread it contributes meaningfully to this particular statistic.

[Fauntleroy]

I should add the obvious: if this is the result of "western style" anything, why is it more prevalent in Korea than "the West"?