[DrFlipper]

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[hef19898]

Since immigrants in Germany are not throwing grenades, it is an unnecessary generalozation. It is also an over simplification of the situation in Sweden. And premature, as nothing seems to be known for certain yet.

And it is a tiny bit racist, ypur comment I mean.

[Gareth321]

Migrants in Sweden are far over-represented in crime. Especially violent crime.

https://www.researchgate.net/publication/338563093_Migrants_...

All of the bombings are gang related, and gang members in Sweden have a disproportionately foreign background.

There is nothing to gain here by pretending this isn't happening. People are literally dying. No one mentioned any races, and conflating "immigrant" with any particular race is misleading at best.

[Pungsnigel]

Not sure how it's racist. It's exclusively done by immigrants in Sweden? Surely that's a factor that is relevant to the discussion?

[marginalia_nu]

As far as I understand, it's a relatively global operation. Swedish gangs essentially franchise the business model from the Mexican cartels.

Swedish immigrants are susceptible to this because Sweden did a spectacularly poor job at integrating these people. The idea was to liberally accept immigrants to solve the demographic crisis and the pension system, but along the way most of the immigrants who moved to the country were let down and given fairly shitty life prospects.

Turns out these people aren't filled with grateful joy over having undignified dead end jobs and living in dinky apartments in segregated communities in derelict apartment buildings from the '70s. Quelle surprise.

[tyingq]

There are some differences. Sweden, for various reasons, seems to cluster immigrants into fewer places with more of them all together. And the clustering creates service shortages for police, social services, jobs, etc. This makes for more kids that should be in school to not be in school, and also higher unemployment than there would be if they were more spread out. That heavy clustering also creates fewer opportunities to integrate with the locals, so the immigrant communities are more insular. All of that makes it easier for extremists to recruit, intimidate, organize, etc.

[dist-epoch]

Police in Germany is a bit more strict about grenades than the one in Sweden.

In bigger German train stations you regularly see machine-gun armed police.

[lucasRW]

So if it's "racist" you are implying that you identified a certain "race" while the comment was mentioning immigrants, which could well be white but apparently you have other non-white immigrants in mind and therefore came yourself to a "racist" conclusion ?

[lynx23]

You are right, refugees in germany seem to prefer stabbing minor girls with knives. Watch out for ghetto streets, there might be grenades coming soon.

[ipaddr]

There have been problems with rape and other crimes in Germany. Not sure it's working well either.

[codr7]

My brief experience of living in Germany says that they're doing a better job of integrating immigrants. In Sweden they're basically dumped in a suburb and ignored, until they start blowing things up that is.

[Gareth321]

For a little over a century, the left wing Swedish Social Democratic Party dominated Swedish politics. For decades, they and their voters have argued that enforcing migrant dispersal, as they do in Denmark, is racist and an abuse of human rights. They argue that migrants should be free to live anywhere they please. I can understand the sentiment at face value, but the deleterious social effects are undeniable. It is an example of compassion taken to an illogical extreme; ignoring all evidence to the contrary.

[the_third_wave]

> they're basically dumped in a suburb

They are not "dumped in a suburb" by the authorities but actively choose to move there. This is made possible by a law - EBO or "eget boende" (own accommodations) - which gives asylum seekers and their relatives the right to choose their own domicile. The current government wants to abolish this law [1] since it makes it harder to integrate/assimilate people who end up living in ethnically segregated areas.

[1] https://www.svt.se/nyheter/inrikes/regeringen-vill-avveckla-...

[ArnoVW]

is there reason to believe it is an immigration-related attack?

in the Netherlands we are seeing an uptick of grenade-attacks, and they are generally related to criminal organisations.

[krona]

A distinction without a difference.