[avyeed_desa]

> The so called 'jungle music' is defined by the amen - it is not jungle unless it has it. Period.

This is definitely NOT TRUE! Plenty of jungle has no amens in it: DJ Hype - Roll Da Beats (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JNo9NR3F7KA)

DJ Dextrous (Da Kings Of The Jungle) - Time To Move (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EhXUEetPY6E)

Tom & Jerry - Maximum Style (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZVukhJ1acSc)

Dillinja - Tear Down Da Whole Place (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wEVGJGR5maI)

THE MOST WELL KNOWN JUNGLE TUNE OF ALL TIME HAS Z E R O AMENS IN IT:

M-Beat - Incredible (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mL2Bgj-za5k)

It's the Blowfly - Sesame's Treat break.

[larodi]

I stand corrected. The Jungle is not only about amen, but then it is the only genre so much infused with the amen. You are right that people back in the day sampled various afro/funk stuff to get nice loops. But from what I've heard (I can name man y more than these here in your post), the most extreme jungle examples actually have some amen in it.

So my point is - the musical genre most defined by amen is jungle music, and how an amen can be used/abused was shown through jungle. hope this works for u.

[gilmore606]

wait, that break is from Blowfly?! I was a DJ for years and I love Blowfly and never knew that, how embarassing, TIL.

[avyeed_desa]

Yeah, it's one of the Classic DnB/Jungle breaks. Like on this one:

Deep Blue - The Helicopter Tune (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-vbnxrccBQQ)

classic Jungle and Drum & Bass Breaks are

Lyn Collins - Think

Bobby Byrd - Hot Pants (I'm Coming)

Incredible Bongo Band - Apache

Blowfly - Sesame Street

James Brown - Soul Pride

James Brown - Funky Drummer

I recommend Tim Cant's "A Beginner's Guide To Jungle Breakbeats" [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BuaKtIjSY_A]