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psychphysic | 2 years ago

Given in the UK doctors have taken a real terms paycut circa of over 25% [0] the UK is not currently fit to fund anything.

[0] https://www.bma.org.uk/media/6882/bma-ia-juniors-fact-sheet-...

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fnordpiglet|2 years ago

Except this sort of funding has multiplicative effects. Funding for a single doctor helps only that doctor and their patients. Funding for this sort of work helps all doctors and all patients. When austerity cannibalizes your force multiplying efforts, that’s truly the end.

Edit:

For context the thing you linked says UK medical residents (in US language) make $36k/year, and the median household income is also $36k/y[0] .

In the US the average non specialist income is $60k[1], and the median household income is $69k[2]

This tells me things aren’t out of whack.

They also say 40% of residents in the UK want a different job. But residencies are temporary. In a few years they will have a new job - a full doctor.

I’m not saying there’s not a crisis, but that sheet doesn’t explain to me what the crisis actually is. They seem to be doing on par with US residents.

0 https://www.ons.gov.uk/peoplepopulationandcommunity/personal...

1 https://mededits.com/residency-admissions/residency-salary/

2 https://www.deptofnumbers.com/income/us/

psychphysic|2 years ago

What's the difference in pay between a "full doctor" as you put it consultant (UK) or attending (US)?

UK a consultant earns £100k pretax and pays approximately 30% net tax rate and 60% marginal rate.

What about US?

Apparently family medicine in the US brings in 130% more than the equivalent in the UK (GP which makes up half of all UK doctors).

https://revisingrubies.com/us-vs-uk-doctors-salary/

That's truly astounding.