[thereare5lights]

> Show me one instance America detaining someone for a family member’s political dissidence?

Nah we're not playing your game of restricting this to family members for political speech.

Your original point was to address

> Amen. I've never understood why people fear speculated Chinese and Russian spying, while they never seem to recall the US spying that is well documented and confirmed.

https://ccrjustice.org/files/ghost-detention.pdf

> In some cases, family members – including young children – of “ghost detainees” have been detained themselves, and held in CIA secret sites, including 9 and 7 year old boys.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ghost_detainee

[ethanbond]

"Nah we're not playing your game of [responding to the point you actually made]"

The question is why US spying is treated differently than Chinese and Russian. The answer is that China and Russia behave dramatically differently than the US does. I never made any claim as to the US being some flawless benevolent entity, but I made a clear argument (that you've not refuted) as to why most of the global community views them differently.

[thereare5lights]

> The answer is that China and Russia behave dramatically differently than the US does.

yes. they are open about what they do whereas we do it covertly

> why most of the global community views them differently.

citation needed

"most of the global community"

you mean the west, which is not even a majority of the global community.

but even if it was a majority, again, because we do it covertly, we hide it and everyone only sees the good things until someone like snowden comes along and leaks our dirty laundry.