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throw3747874747 | 2 years ago

I am pretty sure that is (or soon will be) illegal in EU. Car needs to be able to call emergency, if accident is detected.

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loloquwowndueo|2 years ago

The manufacturer may have to legally include the functionality in cars they sell but in pretty sure the owner isn’t obligated to use or keep the functionality untouched.

By comparison if your seat belts are all frayed and you don’t wear them anyway that’s on you, manufacturer sold you a car with seat belts in good condition and that as far as the “compliance” requirement goes.

tpmoney|2 years ago

Might depend on the wording of the law and how that system is tied into the rest of the car. For example in the states, it is illegal to tamper with any part of the emissions control system on your car. This is mostly about making sure emissions testing via OBD II can’t be gamed, but it also would target modifications like “rolling coal” or turbos and superchargers that allow user controlled fuel mapping. But in the crossfire it catches completely reasonable reasons to modify your emissions system like a flex fuel upgrade, or replacing the computer of your old car with an aftermarket one because the engine immobilizer unit died and they’re paired together and OEM computers and immobilizer kits are either too expensive or not obtainable anymore.

Laws against tampering with vehicle safety devices would easily have a similar effect on your built in phone home systems.

flir|2 years ago

Frayed seatbelts won't pass an MOT in the UK. (Don't know about any other country).

chongli|2 years ago

Will it also be illegal to drive an old car that doesn't have this telemetry?

justinclift|2 years ago

"Oops, how did that happen..." ;)

throw3747874747|2 years ago

It is EURO5 or EURO6 emmision norm. It also handles firmware updates, reaction to Volkswagen cheating. Car needs to be online, check for latest firmware and all sort of nasty DRM.

There is also a black box, that records position and speed. It may call emergency if it detects crash. If DRM is violated, car may refuse to start, or only drive like 50 kms.

I don't have a source, but anyone should be able to find relevant articles.

neurostimulant|2 years ago

Wait, new cars in EU are expected to have cellular connectivity?

TheLoafOfBread|2 years ago

Yes and no. For eCall the modem will wakeup when crash signal is received, otherwise the chipset is disabled.

For Euro7 it will be necessary by design.

PrimeMcFly|2 years ago

What about the the numerous older cars that don't have that functionality?

Ylpertnodi|2 years ago

Eventually, there will be no older cars left. The 'agencies' are thinking of the future, unlike the governments (ever have done, long term).

lost_tourist|2 years ago

Is there some EU police that go around arresting people if you clip it?

extraduder_ire|2 years ago

EU "directives" require matching laws to be passed within member states, EU "regulations" apply directly to member states as written. In both cases, enforcement is up to the country you're in.

PrimeMcFly|2 years ago

It wouldn't be surprising if there was. Look at how they go around enforcing people paying a tax just to be able to use televisions they legally own.