[miguelmurca]

This is bound to get some criticism (or some tangent-at-best discussion), but it seems like a pretty fair discussion to me.

What I'm missing at the end of the article is the author's point: I believe they're advocating for the use of raw threads and manual management of concurrency, and doing away with the async paraphernalia. But, at the same time, earlier in the article they give the example of networking-related tasks as something that isn't so easy to deal with using only raw threads.

So, taking into account that await&co. are basically syntactic sugar + an API standard (iirc, I haven't used Rust so much lately), I wonder about what the alternative is. In particular, it seems to me like the alternative you could have would be everyone rolling their own "concurrency API", where each crate (inconsistently) exposes some sort of `await()` function, and you have to manually roll your async runtime every time. This would obviously also not be ideal.

[nemetroid]

I thought the author's point was relatively clear: Rust might not be a good fit for the kind of tasks that need more concurrency than raw threads can give you. Such programs should be written in some other language instead.

> Maybe Rust isn’t a good tool for massively concurrent, userspace software. We can save it for the 99% of our projects that don’t have to be.

[hot_gril]

So 99% of projects need raw threads only, according to the author. I doubt that.

[lowbloodsugar]

I thought his point was async is not good for apps with lots of work to do, and that green threads are a much better idea. IDK.

[marcosdumay]

The author's point is that Rust is not a good language for software like that example. But very, very little software is like that, and you can always divide it up in large blocks inside of what Rust fits quite well.

Personally, I'm a bit more radical than the author. You won't be able to write software like the example correctly. It should just not be done, ever. Machines can still optimize some sanely organized software into the same thing, maybe, if it happens to be a tractable problem (I'm not sure anybody knows). But people shouldn't touch that thing.