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smaps | 2 years ago

Can you explain why you think it’s an awful language? It definitely used to be lacking in features, but the improvements in the recent versions have been great.

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zyngaro|2 years ago

Developer experience is awful. Variable names starting with $, heavy object orientism that seems like an after thought, tooling ecosystem is subpar, standard library is a joke, etc It’s a pile of crap and that’s my opinion

WA|2 years ago

What’s wrong with the standard library? Seems pretty extensive. Supports all kinds of DB drivers out of the box, JSON, XML, drawing tools…

dagw|2 years ago

I agree that the language itself has many warts and the standard library is what it is, but I found the modern PHP developer experience and tooling is surprisingly good. At least when working within the Laravel ecosystem.