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I'm kind of surprised at the statement that Terraform is bad at bootstrapping things like Kubernetes, not the statement on it's own, but in context of using Talos. Yes, for a lot of roll-your-own Kubernetes cluster distributions, it isn't great at it and implementations are somewhat badly maintained, but for Talos specifically it's actually a very nice experience. They've done a good job on the provider and made it possible to bootstrap in an idempotent way, and it helps manage the lifecycle, upgrades, going forward by talking to the Talos control plane after it's bootstrapped. It's still being actively developed but I think their approach works better than most, and in some ways feels nicer than trying to bootstrap something like EKS with terraform. https://github.com/siderolabs/terraform-provider-talos