"Institute for Energy Research" aka "research ways to sell people more ~~energy~~ oil." A massive chunk of their donations come from Exxon who are very well known now to flood the information market with low-quality "science" to push their own agendas even if they know their agendas are not good.
You ever think a research group owned by Koch and Exxon are ever going to find that one should burn less fossil fuels? You think Coca Cola is ever going to tell you to stop drinking Coke? Given the fact they're massively biased on the subjects, shouldn't you then probably take their "studies" with at least 5 tons of salt?
I mean, c'mon now, they say stupid stuff like this:
> Since paper plates and plastic utensils are not eligible for government food assistance programs, the proposed standard will hit the poor especially hard.
Yeah, that's right, lets just slip in the idea of putting in some kind of government assistance to go buy disposable plastic right in this article. Who would stand to gain? Huh, Koch, the Koch family, Exxon, you know, their list of sponsors, etc. Its crazy to me how openly brazen and hostile they are with this logic.
Then they say stuff like:
> Manufacturers have warned reducing water and power in dishwashers has become increasingly difficult without impacting performance
But at the same time mention:
> While most dishwashers on the market meet the Energy Star Standard of 3.5 gallons per cycle
So we're already meeting half the standard and yet they act like its impossible to be at the point we're already at.
I don't personally care too much about these rules, but this article is a bunch of nonsense.
Even from their economic side of hurting consumers, they openly state it'll save >$600M in costs while only costing $125M to implement. So they're arguing against saving almost $500M in energy and water costs for consumers, not arguing that things will ultimately cost more. This article written by the energy industry is literally trying to convince us we should spend $500M in extra energy costs, and you're eating it right up.
If that whole $125M was done in just the first year of dishwashers sold in only the US market it increases the price of a several hundred dollar appliance by $15. Just the water saving costs alone is estimated at $30/unit, then an additional $7+/year in energy savings. If the thing only lives 5 years (dismal outlook, but lets use it) its saving consumers $65, 65 - 15 = a positive number, aka it will save consumers money, even if they're poor.
vel0city|2 years ago
You ever think a research group owned by Koch and Exxon are ever going to find that one should burn less fossil fuels? You think Coca Cola is ever going to tell you to stop drinking Coke? Given the fact they're massively biased on the subjects, shouldn't you then probably take their "studies" with at least 5 tons of salt?
I mean, c'mon now, they say stupid stuff like this:
> Since paper plates and plastic utensils are not eligible for government food assistance programs, the proposed standard will hit the poor especially hard.
Yeah, that's right, lets just slip in the idea of putting in some kind of government assistance to go buy disposable plastic right in this article. Who would stand to gain? Huh, Koch, the Koch family, Exxon, you know, their list of sponsors, etc. Its crazy to me how openly brazen and hostile they are with this logic.
Then they say stuff like:
> Manufacturers have warned reducing water and power in dishwashers has become increasingly difficult without impacting performance
But at the same time mention:
> While most dishwashers on the market meet the Energy Star Standard of 3.5 gallons per cycle
So we're already meeting half the standard and yet they act like its impossible to be at the point we're already at.
I don't personally care too much about these rules, but this article is a bunch of nonsense.
Even from their economic side of hurting consumers, they openly state it'll save >$600M in costs while only costing $125M to implement. So they're arguing against saving almost $500M in energy and water costs for consumers, not arguing that things will ultimately cost more. This article written by the energy industry is literally trying to convince us we should spend $500M in extra energy costs, and you're eating it right up.
If that whole $125M was done in just the first year of dishwashers sold in only the US market it increases the price of a several hundred dollar appliance by $15. Just the water saving costs alone is estimated at $30/unit, then an additional $7+/year in energy savings. If the thing only lives 5 years (dismal outlook, but lets use it) its saving consumers $65, 65 - 15 = a positive number, aka it will save consumers money, even if they're poor.