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2bitencryption | 2 years ago

I use Obsidian daily and love it.

However, I'm not very disciplined with it. I don't have a "process". It's just my scratchpad with daily notes that end up being disorganized and gibberish.

Does anyone have a good process they follow with Obsidian? A good template, a good, disciplined strategy to stay organized? I'd love to hear it, please share :)

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romesc|2 years ago

I am approaching 3 years with Obsidian!

What I have found works best is to basically forget about putting strong priors on the structure of your notes. Just let everything be flat - or at most, create one level of hierarchy for a specific project.

When you have a new thought, use search. I have a command that pulls up the advanced search tool plugin and fuzzy searches my term. I then quickly scan (visually as cards) the notes I created already. If there is something related to my idea I open that note and continue that thread. If it's new, I create a new note.

This can be improved even more by using tags liberally, but I find that just having a powerful search and taking the time to "check" before creating a new note works very well for my style of note taking!

hotnfresh|2 years ago

My “system” in Apple Notes is that I just make sure to include words I know I’m likely to use to search for something later. It’s like tagging, but less work.

Search does the rest of the “organizing”

singhrac|2 years ago

I'm at roughly 2 years, and I totally agree. If you make the friction to create a note high, you won't write anything down. I find tags sometimes helpful, but the only structure I really stick to is to create a daily note every day and start writing down what I need to do. It replaces a previous habit of creating a YYYYMMDD.txt file in Vim.

I sometimes organize book/paper notes in a specific folder, mostly to keep things separated out from the daily notes.

ryneandal|2 years ago

I have issues with memory/retainment due to a traumatic brain injury from a car accident in high school, and am incredibly dependent on using Obsidian as sort of a "second brain."

While I've only adopted about half of the methods outlined in Tiago Forte's book, Building a Second Brain [1], it's been very effective for me. I prefer hierarchical folder structure for organization, but I do use his overall PARA structure.

I also use an "inbox" or intake folder inspired by Zettelkasten for newly created notes. I really believe significant cognitive overhead of sorting/tagging/organizing gets in the way of getting your thoughts/notes written down. I generally spend ~10-15 minutes after getting the kids to bed to organize any notes created throughout the day. This is part of my wind-down routine, involving quickly journaling an overall summary of the day on my daily notes and migrating any outstanding TODO's to the next day.

IMO though, the most important thing is to use whatever method of structure/routine/organization works for you. Approach it as an iterative process and play with interesting ideas or methodologies.

One thing in Tiago Forte's BASB that I _strongly_ agree with is that regardless of how much organization you put into your digital notes, search is often the fastest way to find something you're looking for, so spending immense time on organization is counter-intuitive to the reason to take notes. Spending some time to organize your thoughts can inspire connections between notes that you hadn't initially thought of, but it is a slippery slope: it is easy to get lost in the process of structuring your notes and end up with that as your sole purpose of your documented thoughts.

1: https://www.buildingasecondbrain.com/book

thewataccount|2 years ago

TAG EVERYTHING - I'm with the sibling comment. I highly recommend the templater plugin.

Just choose a template immediately that has the creation date, and tags.

Tag your notes, just attempt to be consistent with the tags. Obsidian has some crazy powerful plugins that let you build it to your workflow - but if you start by tagging everything you'll be set moving forward.

I personally like the unique note creator to prepend dates.

Quickadd+Commander lets you make buttons for individual templates. Dataview is also very useful.

It took me two years before I really started personalizing it, I currently have templates for "regular notes", "weekly meeting", and "q/a notes". I'm adding notes to list my #wip as well

kouru225|2 years ago

I tag a lot. Some notes still fall between the cracks though so recently I’ve been setting aside certain tags for dataview. I have so far a “review” tag and a “relevant” tag for notes that I need to reread to see if they’re relevant and notes that I think are relevant to my current thought processes. Then I created a folder that just has notes that use dataview to list certain tags like a note that lists all my notes tagged review and tagged relevant.

random3|2 years ago

Zettlekasten seems popular with the Obsidian crowd. I think it's interesting but only partially following some of the ideas.

I use a single large note (log) with timestamps for each entry. Each entry is default h2 I use tags per entry Sometimes I split out a category in a dedicated log/note or even directory (e.g. math)

Having a better search is great, but the process of organizing notes is for your brain (i.e. structure your knowledge).

runjake|2 years ago

1. Create notes. Use tags and descriptive titles.

2. Don't care about organization.

3. Install the Omnisearch plugin and it's dependencies.

4. Find stuff with Omnisearch.

wellthisisgreat|2 years ago

Tags help, but I am also used to folder structure, so I came up with this..

Create a template for new notes, with an auto-populated frontmatter.

I use the templater plugin with a script that adds tags based on the folders the file is in.

Add this to the top of the template:

```

--- type: note created: <% tp.date.now("MMMM DD, YYYY") %>

updated: <% tp.date.now("MMMM DD, YYYY") %>

collapsed: true

tags:

- <% tp.file.path(true).toLowerCase().split("/").slice(0, -1).join("\n- ")%> ---

```

Also to lighten the decision making process of categorizing the notes, I use daily notes where I would throw all the random / current thoughts / information. The `Rollover Daily Todos` helps with persistence of daily notes. The only catch is that i need to structure the notes as a to-do list

- [ ] but i do it more or less like that anyways.

I will do a daily list cleanup once a month to keep things sane. Delete irrelevant stuff or move things into corresponding folders.

D13Fd|2 years ago

Start each note's name with the date. I use a system-wide auto-expanding shortcut with this format:

2023-09-13

So, for example:

2023-09-13 Thoughts on HN Post

2023-09-13 Call from F. Lastname

2023-09-12 Scratch

2023-09-11 To Do

Otherwise, just write what you want to remember and don't worry about structure or tagging. That's what search is for. The date is only important so you can sort them by the creation date (which otherwise is lost across file systems).

I've been doing it that way for over 10 years now, starting with nvAlt and similar editors. It works great and it's easy to find things.

BigglesB|2 years ago

I don’t know about “good” processes, but I definitely have processes… mainly just templates for daily notes & call/meeting notes & a plugin called QuickAdd. Though tbf, I’ve been using more-or-less the same templates since 2018 but in Typora… It’s nice being able to search back across several years of essentially plain-text notes for stuff :-)

accoil|2 years ago

Read your notes. Search your notes before the trying internet. Using your notes will highlight what is missing, and you can then fill in those blanks.

Since you are the one writing them, you can make them in a format that is easier for you than a random blog post (that you will not be able to find again).

xcdzvyn|2 years ago

I've struggled a lot with this too. I still feel like others' advice seems to fly over my head, and sometimes different note taking systems have wildly contrasting ideas.

someone321|2 years ago

I think I'm on my third Obsidian year. I can now say that I probably put too much effort in "organization" in the beginning and in effect, I notice that usually when I'm looking for something, I either check the file directly or I use search. And I figured that for me tags were not that useful, for now. Still, I keep tagging but I don't lose too much time bothering about that as I used to in the past.

I would suggest not to worry about organizing too much.