[o1y32]

"only true for non-Pro" (i.e. anything < $1K), "a fair trade-off" "nothing to complained about"

As someone whose most devices are USB-C 3.0+ for the past few years and never need to think about speed, I have to say this comment is hilarious.

[jacob019]

USB 2.0 speeds over USB-C are common on low to midrange android phones as well.

[growse]

Low to midrange android phones are not £800.

[raisedbyninjas]

USB3 is 15 years old and was common at least 10 years ago.

[paulmd]

And yet USB2 is still the baseline standard for the USB-C standard ratified less than 10 years ago, the standard that the EU mandated compliance to.

If the EU wanted to outlaw USB2 phones it should have done that. But there would have been pushback from other vendors too - and rightly so.

[jancsika]

Sure, with your 3.0+ devices you never need to think about speed, as you say.

But how often do you really need to never think about speed?

Apple is an enormous company with the best engineers in the business. So I trust they are delivering exactly what we never need in this case.

[Arainach]

Presumably the same product team that decided we didn't need a headphone jack, as we could just buy more overpriced and profitable dongles and cables.

If this was any other company they would be lambasted. Budget Android phones do USB-C 3.0 and have for years.

[hdjjhhvvhga]

It's difficult to detect sarcasm these day so please excuse me if I misunderstood your comment. But Apple is notorious for extorting disproportionate money for features that cost much less in competing products, such as memory and disk storage, and also for straight anti-customer behavior such as making most key parts irreplaceable by users so they have to stick with whatever specs they got. The only thing "I trust Apple with" is that they do their best to maximize profits.

[lazide]

The cope is amazing.

[saghm]

> But how often do you really need to never think about speed?

I've read this a few times and I can't figure out what this is supposed to mean. What are you trying to ask here?

[seanmcdirmid]

I haven't used a USB/lighting cable for data transfer for a very very long time. Maybe 2011? It has been at least 10 years.