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b0in | 2 years ago

Was life ever like this? and if so, is it a failure of that life that it devolved into... this? and if not, how would you get there? These are facetious, here is my point:

You're drowning in ideology while decrying ideological wars because you have decided the way things should be, outlined that this would be a shared vision of all (if only they were as clear-headed as you), that this way would never ever devolve, and provide no path for getting there and hope no one asks. it's magical realism!

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edrxty|2 years ago

Yes and no (I know, way to narrow it down).

On one hand, yeah, that aligns with a vaguely socialist ideology and maybe some other stuff. It has some of my biases in it, particularly in terms of what our current problems actually are (a secular lack of fiscal equality), and that's very much up for debate. There are a lot of social and racial issues that also contribute to our problems, but...

On the other hand, this is the blueprint for the nations that currently have the lowest inequality and highest social mobility. Yeah, this reflects ideology, but at some point we have to actually pick something and picking something that's currently working isn't particularly ideological. Just because it happens to align with ideologies doesn't mean it's ideologically driven. Literally any solution will align with some random ideology.

b0in|2 years ago

I appreciate your followup but this ideology isn't random alignment. it's just a kinder, softer version of the dominant ideology. how do you think the 0.1% of a given "good" country gets all that money to tax? from resource and wealth extraction from the "poor" countries! Even presuming we should have a 0.1% to tax (instead of treating them like the french aristocracy, for example) is an ideological position. It's capitalism.

Fwiw, these were my biases too and then I think I just got jaded that you can't stay here. Ignoring the first world / western chauvinism at play, we could get there but i think even these "nice" countries are all going to backslide if, idk, we run out of computer chips, the global extraction economy fully shifts to China, or the IMF decides to punish them like they did Greece.