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michaelleland | 2 years ago

The tax credits for married people here in the US seem to be part of this type of policy, no?

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PopAlongKid|2 years ago

There are no U.S. tax credits per se for married vs. unmarried taxpayers. Depending on the relative incomes of two spouses, there can be a so-called "marriage penalty" or "marriage reward" from combining two incomes on a joint return, but that alone probably has very little impact on whether people choose to get or remain married.

In fact, a large chunk of existing tax law deals with all the possible combinations of households with children and parents, where the parents may or may not be living together, and may or may not be married to each other. It is designed to fairly accomodate unmarried people, not to encourage marriage.

bradlys|2 years ago

The tax penalty (which is very real for many SV and NYC earners) is one reason I’ve decided to never get married. The other being that the insane one-size fits all contractual aspects of marriage that cannot be changed.

A vengeful judge and spouse can easily wreck one’s finances unfairly.

ConfusedDog|2 years ago

Being single parent can also file for the deduction. Receiving supposal and child support after tax also encourages divorce, which also encourages the benefiting party not to go to work or do works that doesn't pay taxes. I'd say the current policy is more encouraging of divorce than two-parent household.

giantg2|2 years ago

Unless someone is severely disabled, spousal support is a horrible thing. Even worse are the states that make it compulsory after a certain number of years.

Child support makes sense in theory, but is butchered in practice. The judgements often have little to do with how much it actually costs to support the child and is more about a percentage of income.

Let's not forget, the state is the third party in a divorce. They do not want to support anyone when they can force one of the other parties to do so.

mortureb|2 years ago

Spousal support is an archaic holdover that doesn’t belong anymore and child support should not be a thing offered in at fault divorces. For the latter I’m not sure how you can go about implementing that ethically though. If the dad cheated, fine, he should pay child support. If the mom cheats, maybe the state can subsidize daycare while the mom is forced to work. Otherwise there are no consequences for the mom who can just “divorce him and take his house and half his money”.

readthenotes1|2 years ago

There are still tax disadvantages for some married couples (used to be all, assuming both worked).

However, there are also plenty of welfare programs that are means tested so marriage is ruled out.

(One of the leading theories for the number of babies born out of wedlock rising so much since the early 1960s is the end of the shotgun wedding: the baby daddy counters by pointing out that the mom will lose out on a lot of benefits if she gets married)

darth_avocado|2 years ago

There is an additional Medicare tax of 0.9% if single income exceeds 200k, but if you file jointly, that limit is 250k. So a married couple with each earning 125k+ would pay more tax than an unmarried couple where person made 200k.

This hardly mattered years ago, but with median wages getting around 70k+, a lot more people pay this penalty for getting married.

giantg2|2 years ago

You can actually benefit from being single filers (non-married) by choosing who claims what to get the biggest breaks. Not being married means you can also mix and match certain things that you otherwise might not be able to, like regular vs Roth IRAs (although I think this is state level).

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sokoloff|2 years ago

When only one of the people has an income, there's definitely a benefit for married-filing-jointly over MFS or being unmarried.

codexb|2 years ago

There aren't any tax credits for married couples. There are tax credits for parents, and they aren't reduced by divorce. The tax benefits of filing "married" isn't any better than filing as "head of household" (which doesn't require marriage), and filing as either sometimes provide a disadvantage when both parents are working and earn similar incomes.

In the US at least, the financial and legal incentives for women to divorce is far, far greater.