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zeratax | 2 years ago

optional things like this are fine. preventing me from joining e.g. NSFW discord servers wholesale is not imo. As an adult I should be able to use my phone however I want

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mfer|2 years ago

> as an adult

You touch on an interesting element. A lot of iPhone users are kids. Even young kids. Logged in with their parents account.

Not trying to justify what’s going on. Just add context

ben_w|2 years ago

Mmm.

Given the internet as it is, and as it has been even back when FOSS discussions included hating GIF because of patent enforcement, kids shouldn't be on the (general) internet at all.

Smartphones are even worse, given the deliberate attempts to make content more addictive.

I'm not sure how to square that particular circle with the likelihood of social exclusion from not being online — it's not like me putting (general) in brackets in the first paragraph will convince the right people that there's money to be made in a genuinely safe subset, despite the existence of YouTube Kids and whatever Netflix' thing is called.

TheHappyOddish|2 years ago

And this is the parents responsibility to not share passwords and ensure device usage is appropriate.

A lot of kitchen users are kids, it's the parents responsibility to ensure they're supervised or that the sharp knives are put away out of reach.

EA-3167|2 years ago

100%. It's the difference between empowering users and patronizing them.