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nexus7556 | 2 years ago

Security and custom checks in Switzerland. Had to go through customs and security check before boarding a train between GVA and Paris. Also had everyone’s passport checked while on a train between GVA and Milan. Not just France and GB that have stops. Can’t forget Switzerland.

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SandroB|2 years ago

That's strange. I lived in Switzerland my whole life and don't remember having had a security / passport check for a boarding a train ever. So it's definitely not normal / regular to have this in Switzerland. Most of western Europe is part of the the Schengen Area, so there's no need for passport checks.

HelloNurse|2 years ago

Between Switzerland and Italy there are, or there used to be, foreign border agents on the train rather than checkpoints.

prmoustache|2 years ago

I've had random checks in the train over the year between Switzerland and France and Switzerland and Italy. They are definitely not regular/mandatory though.

FearNotDaniel|2 years ago

This is not generally required when travelling between Schengen countries. National governments may introduce immigration checks within Schengen, and in recent years have sometimes done so for particular reasons e.g. during Covid lockdowns or due to a sharp increase in refugees/asylum seekers. But these are short-lived and it is not the norm.

vinay427|2 years ago

It isn't clear if you meant this as an aside, but Switzerland is a Schengen area country. It isn't in the EU/EEA which (in some sense) necessitates customs checks more so than immigration checks, but nonetheless there are frequent checks on the border with its neighbouring countries which are in the EU/EEA. It's less common by private vehicle, in my experience.

cjpearson|2 years ago

It seems that nothing is so permanent as a temporary Schengen border control. Some of them have been in place since 2015 and it doesn't look like they'll go away any time soon. In fact Germany is looking to expand them, adding border controls on its Czech and Polish border.

lm28469|2 years ago

> This is not generally required when travelling between Schengen countries.

It happens more and more due to illegal immigration. I've beens topped in trains, buses, highway parking, by police officers asking of passport and reasons to travel.

In Paris/Marseille/Strasbourg I've always been controlled since ~2020

raverbashing|2 years ago

> before boarding a train between GVA and Paris

From the airport straight into the train?

Yes sometimes there are intra-Schengen checks in trains but the most I've seen is people checking the passports in route

addicted|2 years ago

Switzerland signed the Schengen Agreement in 2008.

It’s unlikely they have border controls since then although they probably did before.

lm28469|2 years ago

Schengen is nice on paper but anyone who travels extensively knows border checks and random highway/train checks happen all the time. Go to Poland/Slovakia/Austria/&c.

Schengen allows free movement of EU citizen and people legally residing/visiting.

It means you can travel without visa.

It _does not_ mean borders are fully open and you can go in and out with absolutely no control

prmoustache|2 years ago

Random checks still do exist. Also in the highways and border sometimes.