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erickf1 | 2 years ago

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clipsy|2 years ago

> What's the one thing that 200 million people did in the USA, particularly children, that had an unknown potential for adverse health effects and that occured at just the same time and that was new and different? It had to be something different... something new, because this has never happened before.... especially among children. Just think about it. Yes, the vaccine.

Yes, of course, because nothing else different and new was circulating through the population at the time.

Do people like you all just start with a quasi-religious belief that Covid itself must be harmless? I understand being concerned about the possibility of vaccine side effects, but the constant insistence that a novel respiratory virus is safe strain credulity.

erickf1|2 years ago

It sounds like you made up your mind that the vaccine could not possibly be at fault. Nothing to see here, right? You will not even consider the possibility? Not even a 1% probability? Note I said nothing about religion, so not sure why you bring that up here when speaking of the probabilities of potential cause, but I believe your stand requires significant faith.

I do not consider covid to be harmless. Many died, including my own family members. We are talking about diabetes among children. Children were hardly impacted by covid. But many did take the vaccine. Food for thought.

Gibbon1|2 years ago

If one were subject to normalcy bias you'd want to believe that the virus was harmless. That everything bad that happened was the vaccines fault. And you'd believe that in spite of all evidence to contrary.

Biggest take away from me from the pandemic was how powerful normalcy bias is.

sp332|2 years ago

More kids got Covid than got the vaccine.

erickf1|2 years ago

Point taken, and I do not dismiss the potential. It would be prudent to consider all the new things and not dismiss either without careful review. Most kids suffered very few ills as a result of having covid compared to adults. Diabetes among children is a very rare thing, not even a blip on the radar for children (until now). Also, if we want to say that covid caused an increase of type 2 diabetes among children (no doctor is saying this by the way... neither is the WHO)... what is that evidence? I mean, is there a historical precedence that demonstrates that having one illness to trigger an entirely different illness? For example, do survivors of cancer tend to get diabetes... or did the survivors of the black plaque experience a sudden increase of diabetes... etc... I do not believe that to be the case. I'm not discounting it... I do not believe their to be such a treasure trove of past cases that can be pointed to as models to consider. But, worth a look. My concern is more of the unwillingness I see in so many people to consider the potential of all the options on the table. No one seems to really want to talk about, the other option. All medicines cause issues over time. Take a tylenol every day for 2 weeks and see what happens to you (please, don't do it). How much more something entirely new and experimental.

jeromegv|2 years ago

It’s not scientifically probable. You just made that up out of thin air.