> Caste has repeatedly been used as beating stick to keep Indians(especially Hindus) in line
Can you show one example of this actually happening? While you do that, I'll show you how caste has been used as a beating stick by the upper castes upon the lower castes.
Seriously. Back up your claim. I'm struggling to see how anti-caste discrimination can hurt anyone in a way that's unique and can't be easily achieved by other means (you can levy false allegations of anything, so that doesn't count). So now you have one more possible false allegation to join the hundreds, but Dalits are now protected by law, and you see this as a net negative? To me, that speaks volumes.
I still don’t see how making caste a protected class is a bad thing.
> Opposition to anti-caste discrimination policies, including the pending bill in California, has been loud among Hindu Americans who say the bill is “racist” and unlawfully targets south Asians.
This seems to be the same as “race as a protected class is racist towards white people” and “gender as a protected class is sexist towards men”. It’s true that sometimes these protections are used by bad actors who use their race or gender to threaten to sue people and avoid discipline. But unless I’m mistaken, actual lawsuits are rare and success rarer, because the burden of proof is on them to prove they’re discriminated; being a protected class isn’t a free pass to avoid hash treatment, even when it’s unfair, unless there’s evidence that it’s unfair because of said class.
If I type “caste” into Aloglia HN search, I can find that it pops up in quite a few articles with a lot of comments.
Part of me wonders about your comment saying the issue “has no presence” in the United States. It seems a bit odd to say it’s not a thing when it’s been discussed extensively on this US-focused website.
tbh I suspect it's either performative denial (to continue enforcing the caste system) or not noticing it in their workplace (which may have already managed to exclude the lower castes).
There's room for both on any given individual of course, but the constant brigading on every mention makes it pretty clearly an intentional attack as a whole.
skulk|2 years ago
Can you show one example of this actually happening? While you do that, I'll show you how caste has been used as a beating stick by the upper castes upon the lower castes.
https://apnews.com/article/india-business-religion-599de5789...
Seriously. Back up your claim. I'm struggling to see how anti-caste discrimination can hurt anyone in a way that's unique and can't be easily achieved by other means (you can levy false allegations of anything, so that doesn't count). So now you have one more possible false allegation to join the hundreds, but Dalits are now protected by law, and you see this as a net negative? To me, that speaks volumes.
armchairhacker|2 years ago
> Opposition to anti-caste discrimination policies, including the pending bill in California, has been loud among Hindu Americans who say the bill is “racist” and unlawfully targets south Asians.
This seems to be the same as “race as a protected class is racist towards white people” and “gender as a protected class is sexist towards men”. It’s true that sometimes these protections are used by bad actors who use their race or gender to threaten to sue people and avoid discipline. But unless I’m mistaken, actual lawsuits are rare and success rarer, because the burden of proof is on them to prove they’re discriminated; being a protected class isn’t a free pass to avoid hash treatment, even when it’s unfair, unless there’s evidence that it’s unfair because of said class.
danbolt|2 years ago
Part of me wonders about your comment saying the issue “has no presence” in the United States. It seems a bit odd to say it’s not a thing when it’s been discussed extensively on this US-focused website.
Groxx|2 years ago
There's room for both on any given individual of course, but the constant brigading on every mention makes it pretty clearly an intentional attack as a whole.
jessepasley|2 years ago
hef19898|2 years ago
Far from all Indians are like that, but as usual those who are, are very, very outspoken. Like pseudo-victimized nationalist.
uhhhhhhh|2 years ago
JoeAltmaier|2 years ago