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Kretinsky | 2 years ago

Just like stopping any representation of smoking in movies, preventing the spread of CSAM, even AI generated, should reduce the consumption.

Would you leave your kids for the night at the house of someone who enjoys making AI CSAM?

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Tade0|2 years ago

I'm not interested in the "should". I want to know if there's an approach that has actually been tried that yielded any effect.

Kretinsky|2 years ago

It's well known by psychologists working with child molesters that CSAM consumption leads to action. Given that we're talking about child rape, which is probably the most destructive thing for society, even a "should" is enough to take action.

I'm astonished about the level of precaution here. What's next? We have no clear data about what would happen if we offered nuclear ICBM to Zimbabwe, so why not do it?

hn_acker|2 years ago

> Would you leave your kids for the night at the house of someone who enjoys making AI CSAM?

Probably not, but social ostracization and targeted bans by law (makes AI CSAM = cannot be a teacher) could stand in for a full legal ban.

Less importantly, your smoking in movies analogy is not very applicable because smoking is legal and smoking in movies is legal. Also, there are ads for smoking in public, like at gas stations.

Kretinsky|2 years ago

Smoking is an example among other, Cinema has been a great way to advertise things. Would you say that video advertising doesn't work? Exposure to CSAM content can be a trigger in some individuals with predisposition.

FYI, many countries ban smoking in movies and in advertising (which should be the norm), for this exact reason. For instance, in France: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Loi_%C3%89vin

Also, one has to explain to me why the right to own CSAM is so important in their society. Why should the rights of people having a child rape fetish be protected and enforced? How about the rights of the children (and their parents who would like not to live in fear of such individuals).