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Antipode | 2 years ago

Yes it's a clear design flaw but it's still theft. It's not like you're legally allowed to rob a store if the front door lock isn't installed properly and doesn't work.

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theultdev|2 years ago

No we punish the companies now, not the thieves, see Kia and Hyundai.

mrweasel|2 years ago

I think the point of the Kia and Hyundai cases is that customers had some expectation that the locks would actually provide a higher level of security than they actually did. Otherwise why even bother having locks? Saying that "stealing is illegal and we should pushing the thieves not the companies for failing to provide security" completely negates the point of having any security industry.

If you provide a product that is intended to offer a certain level of security you should get punished when your product fails in a spectacular manor.

tnel77|2 years ago

Why not both? People shouldn’t steal cars and companies should probably be held accountable for gross negligence.

turquoisevar|2 years ago

This is not a zero sum game.

You can punish both.

Especially considering immobilizers have been mandatory in the EU since the ‘90s and cost a manufacturer less than $1.

This is not some state of the art high tech high cost mitigation.

more_corn|2 years ago

Are you really taking the side of the idiots who made a modern car you can Hotwire in 45s with no special tools? And then refused to issue a recall and fix the problem?