[meow]

"they don't 'force it on you' by the way, as you can easily use C or C++ for anything except interfacing with Obj-C frameworks"

Unfortunately, since most of the popularity is due to iOS applications - developers have to touch these frameworks at one point or another and that means touching at least a tiny bit of ObjC

[seclorum]

Thing is though, with a bit of application of the Toll Free Bridge, you can access those frameworks from C or C++ as well ..

http://www.cocoadev.com/index.pl?HowToCreateTollFreeBridgedC...