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sennight | 2 years ago

> ...Russians planned a few weeks to take.

According to who? Are you intentionally demonstrating how silly pro-Ukrainian propaganda is? Russia made the objectives very clear from the beginning: demilitarization and denazification. I don't think anyone aware of that could come away thinking "Yeah, so obviously they expect to accomplish that in a few weeks."

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_kbh_|2 years ago

> According to who? Are you intentionally demonstrating how silly pro-Ukrainian propaganda is? Russia made the objectives very clear from the beginning: demilitarization and denazification. I don't think anyone aware of that could come away thinking "Yeah, so obviously they expect to accomplish that in a few weeks."

Considering that two Russian state run news outlets RIA and Sputnik automatically posted a victory article less then a week into the war and then quickly deleted it, I dare say they expected this war to not take very long.

martinko|2 years ago

> denazification

surprised to see this delusion on hn.

sennight|2 years ago

Delusion on whose part? That was an explicitly stated objective. It has been a long known and well documented fact that Ukraine has an abundance of neo-nazis, a magnitude like nowhere else. So much so that the ADL had to run interference with the goofiest defense: "All those pictures of captured Ukrainian soldiers with swastikas? Ironic race-hate... they're just trolling guyz!"

wojciii|2 years ago

Russia lies. All the time.

The objective has been genocide and this is what has been happening in some places.

I clearly remember mobile crematories which were not a propaganda plot from Ukraine.

I also clearly remember Russian officers having reservations for the coming weekend after the 3 day SMO in the capital of Ukraine.

anticodon|2 years ago

> The objective has been genocide and this is what has been happening in some places.

Can you define genocide? Can you pinpoint a difference between Russian and Ukrainian? Considering that it was historically one country for centuries, Ukraine exists only for the last 30 years.

How comes that Russia wants to "genocide" Ukrainians, but most of the refugees from the war fled to Russia and live happily here?