[diogenes4]

> I'm "convinced" that the "defund the police" was planted to discredit the movement to reform the police.

"Reform"? You mean spend billions more on training so they can ignore all the criticisms levied at the institution? By any metric defund" is bad, reform is worse. Unless the goal is to change nothing of course, in which case "reform" is clearly preferable.

God forbid we agree on any kind of concrete, measurable policy goal....