[nicwilson]

not just a drunk, a cheap drunk.

[dylan604]

But isn't it a deeper commentary into English culture with Gin since the elderberry is what is used to make Gin from just alcohol? They didn't make a joke about grapes=>wine, or peat moss=>scotch.

[julian_t]

I thought the basis of gin was juniper berries, not elderberries (although you can make elderberry gin in the same way as sloe gin)