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timtom39 | 2 years ago

My company is largely remote at this point and is moving away from CA for cost/tax reasons. For some portion of companies this is just one more reason to move headquarters.

That being said, I live in a pretty population dense area and my largest cost by far is dedicated home office space. It would be nice for my company to pay for that but it would have also been nice for them to pay for gas for my commute when I had one.

I think CA is likely overplaying their hand. They are not the place of choice for many remote employees (because of taxes) and are trying hard to not be the place of choice for remote companies.

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brightball|2 years ago

> That being said, I live in a pretty population dense area and my largest cost by far is dedicated home office space. It would be nice for my company to pay for that but it would have also been nice for them to pay for gas for my commute when I had one.

This is probably the best equivalent comparison I've seen in the thread. Paying commute costs vs paying home office costs.

genewitch|2 years ago

i'm unsure if i've mentioned this ever, but i had a company give me a large bonus (to my salary) when i requested remote work, with a contractual rider stating that my salary would go up an additional $15,000 if i moved within 20 minutes of the office within 1 year. The bonus was to entice me to come to the office more often - that is, to offset my pain and suffering, wear and tear, fuel costs, etc.

I still did 3/5 days remote.

dheera|2 years ago

Where I live, dedicated home office space is about 1/4 the cost of commercial rent, in terms of $/sqft. It would be stupid for companies to not pay for it in lieu of commercial real estate.

civilitty|2 years ago

As a Californian who has lived here for a quarter century and has never threatened to leave, I’m glad the state doesn’t cater to startups who can’t afford an extra 5% for home office expenses for their remote workers. They have zero loyalty to the state and if all employees are remote there’s little benefit keeping the corp in CA. Everyone has to register to do business here and the FTB will get the bulk of its cut anyway.

Good riddance. We need the space more than we need the tax revenue. (no offense intended, the housing situation is just dire and I’ll use any excuse to convince people to move out cause so few actually people want to)

twelve40|2 years ago

confused. If all of this is about remote workers, how are they taking up "the space" here? aren't most of them in the lower COL areas freeing up the space while the company pays the CA taxes?

valianteffort|2 years ago

And destroy the property values of all the people that worked their whole lives to own a home there. You're being myopic or selfish, neither is fair to your neighbors.