[billjings]

> Google will pay their lawyers a similar amount and the FTC is likely to lose again bc their case is weak!

I cannot claim to the same prior knowledge as you, but I can read a news article as well as the next person. I am not sure how you can interpret this case as a loss for the antitrust bar, no matter whether Google wins or loses.

* Set Google's claims that default search placement is not a meaningful barrier to entry next to the fact revealed in litigation that they paid 26 billion dollars for default search placement in 2021

* Google seriously made the claim in court that AA.com is a competitor for them in the search market; this was even pushed back on by the judge: https://twitter.com/superwuster/status/1720499941225677240

* Communications with Apple have revealed a company so cozy with Google, that the tone is of two major players effectively dividing up the market. Even Apple partisans like John Gruber have called out Apple's hypocrisy in benefitting from this arrangement: https://daringfireball.net/linked/2023/10/27/google-aggregat...

* Internal communications were revealed that show Google choosing to goose ad rates without the slightest concern for a decline in sales — a clear sign of market power.

Of course, I don't think Judge Mehta has a great track record on this? So whether Google will lose the case is no sure thing.

But without Khan, these facts and figures are simply not here, and we are not having this debate. So while I can see some basis for your claim that Khan is a failure, I can't actually line it up with reality as I see it very well. The conversation around antitrust has changed, without a doubt, and while there a myriad reasons for that, we have to give Khan her due if we are to acknowledge that anyone has any impact on the course of human affairs at all.