[goodroot]

Gosh that's sad.

Zoomers are in this very forum - hi Zoomers.

Hang in there.

Whatever precipitating causes led to such suffering, know that we're _here_, _now_, together.

You aren't as alone as it might seem.

And hey, try to relax a little. We'll figure it out.

[LesZedCB]

i think part of the problem is these kind of messages are alienating exactly because they appear on screen. the meat-space sentiments rarely match the "thoughts and prayers" type online speech-acts, or at least, they are basically never extended as readily.

[alx_the_new_guy]

Nothing personal (I mean, seriously, nothing personal)

Little (probably hard) advice for if/when you're going to say something like that to a zoomer irl (based on personal experience from the receiving end):

The "you aren't as alone as it might seem" gets the "what you're saying is just factually incorrect and what you're trying to do is to bullshit me and maybe possibly yourself" thing going. I have never heard something like that from a person "in the weeds".

Same for "We'll figure it out". How much time have you personally spent "figuring it out" and how much time have you spent playing hot potato with the problem? How important is it compared to your own problems? I guess, not very, so there is no "us" figuring it out.

Basically, don't be a disingenuous dense motherfucker and don't bullshit other people and yourself. Not saying you personally are doing it, but there are definitely more people that do, than that don't.

[goodroot]

For clarity, this response is personal.

Attitude is a potion or a poison.

Make the choice.

Want demons? You'll find them.

Want help? You'll find it.

Many, many people have spent time figuring it out.

Many, MANY people have went into professions or made life style choices to help.

The will to overcome your own narcissism and self pity are key to any healing.

[gedy]

> Whatever precipitating causes led to such suffering, know that we're _here_, _now_, together.

The article comments on this though:

"All the things that have traditionally made life worth living — love, community, country, faith, work, and family — have been “debunked.”

This is absolutely true and no wonder young folks are feeling down. I think the counter-culture types starting 50+ years ago wanted to tear down the old, but forgot to put something constructive in its place. (Well the leftist/Marxist types tried, but then the USSR imploded)

[goodroot]

It's the Internet: All the "debunkings" have also been "debunked".

From the article...

Monogamy is the corollary for the debunking of love.

That's very silly. Love is much more than marriage.

"Church" foibles is the corollary for the debunking of Faith.

That's also very silly. Faith is much more than church or religion.

In other times and other cultures, spiritual insight removed the roots of suffering.