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xwdv | 2 years ago

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faeriechangling|2 years ago

>[Terrorists are] murderous threats to civilized society who must be destroyed absolutely without question or hesitation, by whatever means necessary.

I heard many people talk like you do maybe 20 years ago. This sort of mindset resulted in two wars which killed over a million people, did no good for anybody, and never stopped terrorism from happening. FAR more people died in the global war on terror than have ever died at the hands of actual terrorists.

You should ABSOLUTELY hesitate, ask questions, and refuse to use any means to resolve the issue when facing murderous threats to civilised society. Those are very very good ideas.

hliyan|2 years ago

> must be destroyed absolutely without question or hesitation, by whatever means necessary.

Somewhat ironically, this is how members of terrorist organisations usually justify their means, particularly, their defining characteristic: the targeting of civilians.

norir|2 years ago

I will never defend terrorism but this line of reasoning converges with that of terrorists very quickly.

xwdv|2 years ago

No it doesn’t. Terrorists target civilians and incite terror to further their cause.

Hunters of terrorists target the terrorists, and stop them from furthering their cause.

Seems like a pretty clear difference to me.

bugglebeetle|2 years ago

> murderous threats to civilized society who must be destroyed absolutely without question or hesitation, by whatever means necessary.

For those too young to remember, this is an example of the rhetoric in the US that resulted in a million innocent civilians being killed in Iraq.

s1artibartfast|2 years ago

So here is the thing, Terrorist and terrorism is orthogonal to all that. It is a description of action. It says nothing about goals, which can be right, wrong, noble, or despicable.

Someone can spread terror for a good cause or bad cause.

Terrorism fully compatible and justifiable with utilitarian ethics. As utilitarian ethics become increasingly popular, you should expect terrorism to become less repugnant.

kiba|2 years ago

Terrorism fully compatible and justifiable with utilitarian ethics. As utilitarian ethics become increasingly popular, you should expect terrorism to become less repugnant.

Anybody with ounce of brain cells would realize that such actions are contradictory and counterproductive to any sort of ethical system seriously espoused by anyone.

It's absolutely self defeating and likely won't convince anyone to change their mind.

esafak|2 years ago

I don't see any trend towards utilitarianism.

rootsudo|2 years ago

One persons terrorist is another persons freedom fighter. Your thought pattern only adds more fuel to the fire that there is wrong think.

fshbbdssbbgdd|2 years ago

If there isn’t “wrong think”, is there any “right think” either? Just nihilism?

nverno|2 years ago

No, I think it's pretty clear what a terrorist does - target civilians on purpose. But, terrorists can certainly be freedom fighters as well or vice versa.

xwdv|2 years ago

And there we go again with a live example of what I’m talking about.

s5300|2 years ago

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collegeburner|2 years ago

deadpool and its consequences have been a disaster for the human race...

i think these are just edgy kids being edgy. twenty-first century hanoi janes, the lot of them