[jalfresi]

I do find it fascinating that we are entering a time now where there are engineers who have _only_ ever used cloud services - and that they can't conceive of a era where _we used to have to do all that stuff ourselves on-prem_.

BTW this isn't a criticism - just an observation - cloud has been around now for that long. Still feels "new" to me :D

[riku_iki]

I worked in the shop which had all of these ops (app cluster, DB cluster) on premise, and they had 6 high paid people serving this, not just one, and I think there are many companies with their own sites like that.

So, speak for yourself.