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FranksTV | 2 years ago

The problems in this game are vastly overstated. I've been playing for a couple weeks and it's great.

Does my framer ate occasionally drop? Yes. Does it matter? No! It's Cities Skylines, not Counter Strike.

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pdntspa|2 years ago

Nice that you must have an absolutely baller system to play it on. Most aren't so lucky

_fs|2 years ago

I play on a 6-7 year old pc. Ryzen 5 1600. Vega 56 GPU. Works fine. I don't care about maintaining 60fps. Its a slow simulation city builder.

natdempk|2 years ago

Honestly, as time passes the bigger issue is seeming to be issues in the core simulation. Parts of it aren't implemented, parts of it are tuned very weirdly, parts of it are just bugged, parts of it don't display information to you accurately, etc. You can find more and more complaints and weirdness as people dig into the game implementation via decompilation and manual testing. There's also issues like the mod system being promised right after launch (weeks/days?) and getting pushed back months. I think these are the issues people are more frustrated with at this point. None of this is the end of the world, but as someone who bought it, it kind of doesn't feel worth spending time on the game when it's clearly half-baked.

cowthulhu|2 years ago

Strategy gamers are incredibly whiny and entitled in my opinion. I struggle to remember a strategy game or DLC released by a major studio recently that wasn’t review-bombed on release. And yet studios aren’t going out of business, indicating that people are getting value out of these products and repeatedly buying and enjoying them.

This really frustrates me because it makes it very difficult to actually determine what games or DLCs are worth buying. If every release is reviewed "mostly negative" on steam, then the reviews don't help inform you about the quality of a game.

If you look at steam reviews, it’s even more frustrating - you’ll get negative reviews with 20, 40, even 80 hours of playtime.

LightHugger|2 years ago

80 hours is a good number to review a game at though, you even saying this means you don't understand the basis for why people review games. If someone puts 80 hours into something and regrets it, it's useful information to know.

The opinion of someone who only put in an hour and got bored will be shallow. At best they can complain about new user experience, but that's it. an hour isn't long enough to understand the game systems of a sufficiently deep strategy game

paulddraper|2 years ago

Some sanity.

You watch the latest blockbuster at sub 30 fps and survive

Delk|2 years ago

That's not even remotely the same thing.

Interactivity changes things. A lower frame rate can also make input feel less snappy, which is obviously something you don't run into in film. The frame rate in a film is constant, so there are no variations or drops as there are in rendered games. Those drops and variations can be more noticeable at lower frame rates, even if they don't affect playability in a simulation game the same way they would in a fast-paced shooter.

Films also naturally have motion blur which makes fast movement look softer and less jerky even at relatively low frame rates.

With that said, frame rates being around 30 probably shouldn't really be that big an issue in a simulation game. People who are used to faster frame rates will notice the difference -- again, games are different than film -- but it shouldn't be that big a thing.

But it's worth noting that if those are the figures people get with new high-end systems, that probably means reasonable but less high-end or slightly older systems will have to settle for even less, to a point where performance could actually be an issue.

LargeTomato|2 years ago

I haven't played the game but this makes sense. Gamers love clickbait and game journalists will blow everything out of proportion.