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demadog | 2 years ago

I predict his character arch will be similar to Adam Neumann and Travis Kalanick - first the media gushes over him and praises him as a genius. Then the media starts to question him. Then they start to fully dig in and dig up a ton of dirt.

With no mainstream outlet pushing forth the allegations his sister is claiming on social, I imagine right now they are looking under every rock on that end.

I respect his hustle but there is something about him in watching him speak live and in person that comes off as incredibly manipulative. He knows how to speak and pause in a way that gets the audience to laugh and gives soundbites. I am long OpenAI but I don’t trust Sam.

He could follow the character arch of his friend Thiel where the media come after him but he’s too resilient.

Or Zuckerberg where the media hated him for years and then moved on.

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nottorp|2 years ago

> there is something about him in watching him speak live and in person

Greatest mistake you can make is watch someone speak live about what they're selling. If they're a good actor they'll win you over.

doktrin|2 years ago

Accurate. Psychology, history and the intersection thereof broadly supports the idea that we drastically overestimate our ability to measure character and intention based on in-person interactions. Some oft cited cases being how numerous British public figures who sat down with Hitler tragically misread his intentions, in contrast to those who appraised him from a distance based on actions, policies and writings. Likewise, GWB's famous ability to peer into Putin's soul.

skilled|2 years ago

I dislike the fact that he peddles the AGI angle too much. Literally, way above normal.

It would be nice to see him be down to Earth for a change and show some compassion but what do I know.. maybe those aren’t his strongest qualities.

juped|2 years ago

It's pretty entertaining how the pro-Altman firehose turned off like a light switch after a couple days of all discussion being choked in an endless stream of Altman praise.

At least Adam Neumann is a weirdo with a personality.

cooper_ganglia|2 years ago

I trust Greg, and Greg trusts Sam.

mcpackieh|2 years ago

Transitive trust is a bad idea. The telephone game aka "chinese whispers" demonstrates why.

atleastoptimal|2 years ago

Sam isn't charismatic in the classic showman way. He has nerd appeal but he isn't magically persuasive. He just seems very "focused" so his claims feel believable.

huytersd|2 years ago

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RamblingCTO|2 years ago

He's literally saying they are allegations and claims, so he's done everything correct:

> With no mainstream outlet pushing forth the allegations his sister is claiming on social, I imagine right now they are looking under every rock on that end.

Stop being a fanboy and get some arguments.

dchftcs|2 years ago

>I respect his hustle but there is something about him in watching him speak live and in person that comes off as incredibly manipulative. He knows how to speak and pause in a way that gets the audience to laugh and gives soundbites. I am long OpenAI but I don’t trust Sam.

You can say the same thing about Steve Jobs. Steve Jobs is a jerk for sure but a bad personality does not predict success or failure as much as you (or we) hope to. And what people say about your character is also overly dependent on results. Only time will tell whether Sam Altman will be considered a villain or a flawed hero in media.