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pc | 2 years ago

There's a lot of online fraud. We invest a ton in Radar, our payment surfaces, etc., to keep this as invisible as possible to businesses. (We don't always succeed, of course. But, despite the growing sophistication of the fraudsters themselves, we do generally get better every year.)

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terminous|2 years ago

If you enter the wrong CVC or ZIP and it is declined, does that increment your blocked fraud counter?

handelaar|2 years ago

No. It used to but they turned it off in Dec 2021; notice in my dashboard says it improved sales revenue by 0.5% but only added fraud risk by 0.0004%

Darmody|2 years ago

That's a good question.

I once had my payment flagged as fraudulent because the card owner was not the same as the shop account owner.

My bank decided it was a good idea to block my card without telling me anything. I realized a couple days after when I couldn't pay my groceries.

cuuupid|2 years ago

Out of curiosity do you share the suspected fraud with law enforcement? At that amount there are probably too many to chase down so I’d think this is just an unprosecuted crime?

smokefoot|2 years ago

Generally the bank will file a Suspicious Activity Report (SAR) with FINCEN for egregious cases. I don’t think intermediaries like stripe have any direct responsibility in this respect but I could be wrong. The volumes are huge and few SARs actually are investigated or prosecuted.

ajryan|2 years ago

Can you estimate what proportion of fraud is automated/bot/scripted versus manual human interaction? Do you rely much on botnet detection or IP reputation?

laaaaea|2 years ago

There's a lot of fraud. Period.

I assumed stripe founders had offline business experience before stripe :) Online maybe increase it a little more and make it more risky to the business because of "card not present". But hardly new to online.

There's also a lot of false positives if you verify too much on data brokers, as you just mentioned you do, instead of talking to the issuing institution on fears of chargeback and rate hikes.