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JacobSeated | 2 years ago

Your comparison is quite disgusting and grotesque of course, but let os ignore that for a moment and address the false idea that users are "paying with their privacy"; such opinions is probably the result of a number of logical fallacies.

There is no exchange going on, quite literally, and users get a service, basically for free. Whatever definition you make up to describe the business model does not change this fact.

In addition, so-called tracking is not the problem in itself, and especially so since users are anonymized. It is things like political misinformation and resulting manipulation that is problematic – not targeted ads themselves.

Risks continue to be profoundly exaggerated, and people, even those in the know, seem bend on propagating such misinformation. Please, let's stick to a factually based discussion.

Derailing the discussion with grotesque and perverted irrelevant comparisons of organ trading is not helpful.

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throw_a_grenade|2 years ago

OK, I have a better comparison: companies are not allowed to give away rotten food for 0€, and talk bollocks like "we give you a choice to pay for the fresh one". They need to dispose of it to make sure no-one attempts to eat it, even hungry people in poverty who have trouble to get the food in other ways.

Because getting free food is not a fundamental right either, isn't it?

Personal data is a toxic asset. It also needs to be disposed of.

vincnetas|2 years ago

Ok, i can rephrase. You cant sell your right to privacy. As you can't sell any other human rights. Or any constitutional rights.

matheusmoreira|2 years ago

"Grotesque" ?

My attention is mine. It's part of my mind's inalienable cognitive functions. And yet you would sell it over to the highest bidder for profit without my consent. I call what you're advocating for mind rape.

> There is no exchange going on, quite literally

Total bullshit. If there was no exchange, Meta wouldn't be offering users a "Pay or Okay" take it or leave it deal. The mere existence of this thread is evidence of the fact they were extracting value from people's personal information and attention. The existence of an alternative is evidence of the existence of the other exchange.