[res0nat0r]

> Using tips as a substitute for paying a living wage needs to be eliminated everywhere, but I especially don't blame people for not realizing that a movie theater of all places is playing that game.

Many bartenders and servers, especially in high end restaurants would actively be against this policy. Mostly because these folks can earn $300-500 a night, and moving to some low wage salary would never compete with this.

[zamadatix]

The argument isn't to take someone who earns $400 per night and leave them a $100 per night salary and no tips it's to take someone who earns a total of $400 per night and change that to be a $400 per night salary instead of a small salary with lots of tips. That is to say the debate isn't about how much is being paid but how it's being paid.

One of the real world problem that gets run into is, even for a large portion of people that want this, when one restaurant list $50 prices and expects $10 in tip and the other charges $60 and expects no tip people still go to the one listing $50 more often.

The same is true for stores listing prices including taxes. It simply won't be the most common method in the US unless it's a regulated requirement for every store to do. There is no way every store is just going to opt into it all at once when they know not opting into it will get them more customers than the ones that do. This doesn't mean people prefer needing to calculate tax every time they look at a price it just means it's not a naturally correcting set of incentives.

[red-iron-pine]

bollocks. most bartenders or servers would not be opposed.

top 10% of restaurants are making TONS of cash and the servers are raking it in, sure, but even working in Loudoun Co. VA -- the overall richest county in America, btw -- my salary was easily less than half of what I pulled as a network engineer.

the single mother of 2 working in Applebee's in shit-tier Indiana is struggling because of tips -- they need to go. restaurants in Europe, or Asia, or the Middle East didn't stop existing without tips.

[fishtacos]

>>the single mother of 2 working in Applebee's in shit-tier Indiana is struggling because of tips -- they need to go.

That's reality in large swaths of the US. One less work opportunity available now...