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cleansingfire | 2 years ago

The button has no downside, with a possible benefit, so always push it. Also refers to discredited Bystander effect nonsense regarding Kitty Genocese murder: "there is no evidence for the presence of 38 witnesses, or that witnesses observed the murder, or that witnesses remained inactive." https://psycnet.apa.org/doiLanding?doi=10.1037%2F0003-066X.6...

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lll-o-lll|2 years ago

There is one downside. Here in Australia, the walk signal does not happen unless you press the button. The unwritten convention is that if you are the first to the button, you will press it. Others arriving later will not press, for fear of looking like untrusting fools.

This works fine 99% of the time. However, sometimes my wife will be there. She never presses the button (because she’s ADHD and always forgets), but stands nice and close. A pile of pedestrians will mill around, the lights will change, and the walk signal will stay red! Someone will then annoyedly step in and press the button approximately 20 times while everyone waits for another light cycle to complete.

Her other trick is to enter an elevator and press no buttons. Eventually the lift will go somewhere, but she is often surprised at the destination!

kaoD|2 years ago

Don't you have indicators? In Spain the buttons (which BTW are increasingly uncommon, cars lost the battle) have two large indicators, lit depending on the state:

- Please press

- Wait for green

erhaetherth|2 years ago

Floor 3. It goes to floor 3. At least in my building, which I think has 5 floors. So I guess it wants to wait in the middle to be equidistant to all floors, but I suspect there is a flaw in that math because ground floor probably gets more traffic.

Also, my wife is the same.

estiaan|2 years ago

I find this so interesting because I also live in Australia but I will always press the button if close enough without much thought. I’ve gone my whole life thinking of this as just a normal thing, if not a slightly good thing for being the person who can be bothered to press it. So i was completely unaware of this unspoken thing haha.

ttymck|2 years ago

I fear looking like a trusting fool.

purplecats|2 years ago

> The button has no downside

downsides:

- inconvenience (like if my hands are in my pocket)

- exposure to illness transmission via increased contact with unknown but certainly dirty surface area (assuming touch is required)

- energy expenditure (if its not immediately next to you, or you have a disability)

spiderice|2 years ago

If these are the top 3 “downsides” you can come up with, then I’m fine referring to it as “no downsides”

Vecr|2 years ago

Touch it with your elbow. And don't walk around with your hands in your pockets near traffic, it's bad risk management.

jstarfish|2 years ago

You had to turn a doorknob to leave the house, but you're too disabled to push a fucking button designed for handicapped UX?

You're going to touch traces of a million other people's gender fluids on every single other thing you touch during your errand. Germophobia is very selective.

SlickNixon|2 years ago

>an angst that could otherwise be channeled more appropriately

Sincerely, you might be on to something here.

NiloCK|2 years ago

Amazing you managed to write this post or read any of the comments.

Are your fingers OK?

:)

andrewflnr|2 years ago

One downside I've encountered: some crosswalk buttons in Arlington VA make very loud robo-voice announcements about their status only after you've pressed them. Very good for the visually impaired, I assume, but irritating for me. And the signals are on a timer, so it doesn't help to press them.

Yeah, it's not much. In any other circumstance I press the dang button.