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phzbOx | 14 years ago

What scare me the most about Clojure is collaborate with other devs. I.e. In 2 years, who will maintain the project.

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bkirkbri|14 years ago

We're switching to Clojure specifically because of maintainability. In Clojure your functions tend to be concise, operate on immutable data structures (no side effects) and can be tested/mocked easily. The lack of boilerplate alone makes for a much better signal-to-noise ratio during review or refactoring.

I've been a Perl hacker for 15+ years and still spend too much time reviewing code from CPAN to understand what's going on. I've been using Clojure for about 6 months and find that I can read and understand many of the major Clojure projects on GitHub quickly. Some may claim that says more about Perl than Clojure, but I'm chalking it up to Clojure :)

prakashk|14 years ago

I'd be very much interested to know more about your experience and insights comparing Perl and Clojure. Would you mind writing them up?

edwinnathaniel|14 years ago

Every single time I visited on a github repo of a Clojure based project, almost all of them are structured nicely (src and test) and have unit-tests.

This alone makes me think that Clojure developers are just regular people who care of the maintainability aspect of their code (and quite possibly the readability). Not just a "hacker" that writes code and jump into the next shiny stuff.

As a non-participating viewer from afar, Clojure community seems to have less hipster, less emotional, less roller-coaster, but more mature feeling when it comes to software development.

It also helps that they have a unified build+dependency tools, not a bunch of "upcoming great projects that will solve your build+dependency problem for the umpteenth time".

adrianhoward|14 years ago

As a non-participating viewer from afar, Clojure community seems to have less hipster, less emotional, less roller-coaster, but more mature feeling when it comes to software development.

I wonder if the average age of clojure hackers is higher? I'm not in the Clojure community but it appeals to me (in my forties) coz... well... Lisp! Brings back fond memories of when I shared an office with the dude who did the Common Lisp implementation for Poplog.

The folk I know who are into Clojure are all in their 30s-40s.... but it's probably just sampling bias.

fogus|14 years ago

The Clojure/core team helped tremendously by many brilliant people volunteering fixes, features, and docs -- just like now.

asmala|14 years ago

Indeed, the developer base around Clojure and core libraries seems to have reached a critical mass so the continuity in that front is no longer a real concern.

However, I think the question was about projects built with Clojure, i.e. how to ensure that future developers in the company I work for will be able to continue where I left off? The global Clojure talent pool, while growing, is still on the small side (e.g. compared to even Ruby).