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grozzle | 2 years ago

I built a few identical fidget-spinner toy kits using either leaded and lead-free solder to decide which type I should keep buying from then on, the leaded stuff was admittedly a tiny bit easier to work with and usually left a slightly shinier (better looking) surface, but not to an adequate degree to justify any real risk (or even continual worry) of brain damage et cetera from voluntarily raising the lead level of my home. Your comment seems unbalanced, to me.

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rlpb|2 years ago

Just because it works for you doesn't mean it's fine for everyone, and assuming this without research is...brave?

Leaded solder reduces the risk of tin whisker growth which can over time cause shorts - catastrophic in any safety critical equipment.

https://nepp.nasa.gov/WHISKER/background/index.htm

grozzle|2 years ago

am well aware that leaded solder still has some niche applications, but the comment i replied to called lead-free a "clusterfuck" without any regard for the huge public health benefits.

i hope you agree it's good that e-waste isn't toxic.

tharkun__|2 years ago

I don't think a tiny bit of easier working with it is why lead based would be used in aerospace ;)

Shininess? Who cares.

Now I know nothing about which is better in these regards but:

What would you look for in aerospace applications?

I would imagine things like:

Proneness to cold joints. Ease of detecting cold solder joints. Longevity (in general). Longevity under the stresses of aerospace realities. Etc.

Do you have data on that?

redeeman|2 years ago

> Shininess? Who cares.

Those who care about the quality of the solder joint. You need to get a shiny surface, because anything else is a strong indicator that the solder has been contaminated/oxidized, and if it is such at the surface level, it may well be on the contact points aswell. Im not saying its a 100% garantuee, but if you look at failed solder joints, ESPECIALLY handmade ones, nearly all of them are the ones that were not coming out shiny. If its not shiny, its a fail

grozzle|2 years ago

You've mis-interpreted why I commented.

aerospace is a small part of what soldering is used for, globally. the majority is consumer electronics.

keeping lead out of people's homes is a valuable public-health move, not a needless "clusterfuck", as the comment I replied to said.

redeeman|2 years ago

i wonder if you really got leadfree when you can say that. a leaded tin like 60/40 is infinitely nicer to work with than leadfree ones, and I have tried MANY, cheap and expensive leadfree solders, none come even remotely close.

Sure, dont inhale the smoke, dont eat it, wash your hands after handling the solder, you'll be fine. Want to do more for your health? chances are that getting a little more exercise is a hugely more impactful thing to do (and no, I do not know how much you exercise, but many people today are way too sedentary, myself included)

phendrenad2|2 years ago

Source: I made a fidget spinner. You can't make this stuff up

grozzle|2 years ago

it was a cheap kit, i made ten, for a decent sample size, and for practice. thanks for your kind attitude.