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thulle | 2 years ago

Does it matter? Is wafer cost that large of a fraction of the price of these insanely expensive cards?

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thisislife|2 years ago

From the article:

> Nvidia needs 65% more 5nm wafers to produce the same number of GPUs. Basically all else being equal and scaled, AMD has 65% more capacity than Nvidia, when it comes to the most critical part of the production.

> 5nm dies are the most expensive part of the whole solution, meaning there is also a 65% pricing advantage (though some of this advantage is offset by more complex packaging and other cheaper dies that go into mi300x as well as more HBM chips).

thulle|2 years ago

> 5nm dies are the most expensive part of the whole solution, meaning there is also a 65% pricing advantage (though some of this advantage is offset by more complex packaging and other cheaper dies that go into mi300x as well as more HBM chips).

That doesn't say anything about the fraction of the cost on the finished product though? Those numbers just say it could be something like 2% vs 6% of the cost of the card.

plasmatix|2 years ago

Given the insane demand for these things right now, the real cost is not being able to sell it.

thulle|2 years ago

That makes sense though, are the chips themselves the bottleneck in production?