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1B05H1N | 2 years ago

Sorry, why would I pay 20/year bucks for this when I have my own website/infra?

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p4bl0|2 years ago

If you have your own infrastructure to host all of these services then you're probably not the target audience. It's ok, it's my case too.

But you have to admit that $20/year is quite cheap for all of what is provided here, without having to manage it all yourself, and with a "no trackers no bullshit" way of doing things.

It's really the kind of services I don't need but would almost like to need! The last time I had this feeling was about Neocities :).

footlose_3815|2 years ago

Github pages is free. A .info domain is $5/year.

That's already more than half the features you get with this, and you get to be on the actual internet, not some dude's silo.

As the post's age goes on, I see more criticism, and less positive reactions.

erxam|2 years ago

Even without taking into account the time investment in maintaining your own infra, it compares favorably with everything else. Even the most dirt-cheap VPS is a few bucks more expensive on a yearly basis by itself, and you still have to buy domains and similar.

Running your own infra only really works out if you either have access to great hardware for super-cheap or WANT the experience from setting everything up.

cipheredStones|2 years ago

It consistently surprises me how much software engineers devalue the effort of software engineering when it comes to their personal lives.

If you're a SWE in an English-speaking country, you almost certainly make $20 post-tax for at most one hour of work - 30m at SV salaries, as little as 15m if you're at a FAANG-ish company. Is it conceivable that you would spend less than an hour a year maintaining something like this if you were to do it yourself? I don't think so.

Most people can't earn money in increments of one additional hour, of course, but it still sounds strange to hear people say "why should I spend [the amount of money I earn in half an hour] per year when I could just do it myself [with an amount of professional effort I would expect to be paid 20x as much for]?"

jodrellblank|2 years ago

> "Even the most dirt-cheap VPS is a few bucks more expensive on a yearly basis by itself"

Not if you get a Black Friday special; here[1] was $14.95/year for 40GB SSD, 1GB RAM, 1TB monthly bandwidth, 1CPU core.

RackNerd were offering $10.28/year[2] for 10GB SSD storage, 768MB RAM.

Hudson Valley offered $8/year[3] for 10GB SSD and 512MB RAM

[1] https://lowendtalk.com/discussion/190984/from-14-95-yr-10-gb...

[2] https://lowendbox.com/best-cheap-vps-hosting-updated-2020/ (sold out)

[3] https://lowendbox.com/blog/are-you-serious-hudson-valley-hos...

airstrike|2 years ago

So that you don't have to worry about outages, updates, bugfixes, certs, permissions, vulnerabilities, ... like you do on your own website/infra?

akho|2 years ago

It's the same infrastructure, with the same outages.

The other points are something for the developers of your software distribution to worry about, same as if you buy a packaged service.

dsr_|2 years ago

You are not the target audience.

james_pm|2 years ago

I happily pay $20/year so I don't need to worry about it. Not everyone can or wants to run their own infra.

zeekaran|2 years ago

If I have to spend even one hour per year maintaining my own, this service is cheaper.

dannyw|2 years ago

How much did you spend on your last lunch?

Why did you pay 5x the price of ingredients?