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res0nat0r | 2 years ago

Thats the entire point of the Apple ecosystem. They want to control the entire user experience end to end, and it is why many people like Apple products so much.

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thayne|2 years ago

> it is why many people like Apple products so much

and it's why (well one very big reason why) I hate Apple products, and avoid them.

Cyberdog|2 years ago

I wonder how many of the people complaining about the Apple ecosystem are doing so using a Google browser on a Google operating system running on a Google hardware device and found this site using the Google search engine and signed up using a Google Mail mail address and do work using Google's office suite and are listening to a video or music on Google's video sharing platform in the background as they type.

freedomben|2 years ago

Unfortunately we're heavily in the minority. The vast majority of people won't do this.

darkwater|2 years ago

> They want to control the entire user experience end to end, and it is why many people like Apple products so much.

Totally. But in a messaging app context, that doesn't apply or even make sense. They could just release an iMessage app for Android and keep the experience exactly the same for their iPhone users.

hamandcheese|2 years ago

> Thats the entire point of the Apple ecosystem. They want to control the entire user experience end to end

I don't doubt that.

> and it is why many people like Apple products so much.

No. People like the quality and the refinement and polish. In most cases those things to not require (as much of) a closed ecosystem. Beeper is proof of that.

bigstrat2003|2 years ago

I would say people like the marketing. The average consumer gives no shits about product quality (see: the race to the bottom in basically every industry). But Apple has somehow convinced people that they are cool, so people buy their products.

ceejayoz|2 years ago

The quality and refinement comes from the control. They don’t ever have to support a device they didn’t make themselves.

covercash|2 years ago

I actually like the walled garden, things “just work” in here…

I also have devices outside of the the walled garden but they take a bit more effort as far as initial set up and upkeep, things I’m willing to do but average Joe just wanting his tech to do what he tells it to do might not have the patience for.