The beautifully written but not much known Rune Blades Of Celi ebooks no longer can be purchased, as the small publisher is just gone. Of course, the ones I purchased could no longer be downloaded. But want something bigger? Fine. The Wheel Of Time (is that large enough for you?) Complete Edition I bought for over a hundred dollars also can't be donwloaded any more. (And to be more on topic, one of my favorite artists have disappeared from Bandcamp and so did my purchases. And Bandcamp is better in this than others.)
You can download all these from torrent trackers.
Tell me true, if you can't buy them how on earth it is piracy to download them?
> Tell me true, if you can't buy them how on earth it is piracy to download them?
People would argue that it's up to the seller whether they want to make their creations available. If I don't want to sell you something, then I'd entertain the argument that downloading it anyway is in some sense immoral or unethical.
But in your situation, you've already fucking bought it! It's as if you placed a pick-up order at the bookstore, showed up to pick up your books, and they told you to eat shit. In which case, acquiring it through other means is completely acceptable, morally and ethically.
For generating a cookie file, I suggest just using https://github.com/hrdl-github/cookies-txt
I should really write up a full Linux and windows setup guide and submit it.
Likewise, people who use bandcamp are likely to use GOG, which also has purchase archiving tools available on GitHub. I’ve used https://github.com/Kalanyr/gogrepoc for a long time, but there are actually multiple projects now.
> Tell me true, if you can't buy them how on earth it is piracy to download them?
My daughter, doing a journalism course assignment, once asked Maddy Prior of Steeleye Span (not a _huge_ artist, but reasonably well known towards the end of last century) about this. Maddy's comment was basically the same. She'd rather you bought something legally, but if it's not available (some of their back catalogue had disappeared) then Maddy thought it was fine to 'pirate' it.
All of my Wheel of Time volumes are still there; I checked. Granted, barring fire or a really thorough or oddly specific burglar, they're not likely to go anywhere (although I suspect my son will devour them once he's mastered reading English and can reach that top shelf).
The thing that really worries me and which no one seems to be talking about is the region locking of localisation for streaming content.
For context - we're a Polish family living in the UK(like 2 million other Polish people). We have a small child who loves Disney films, and because he is normally exposed to English(and speaks it fluently) I'd like him to at least watch cartoons in Polish. But Disney region locks most(not all, but majority) of Polish localisation to Poland only. When we visit Poland I can watch all Disney content in Polish on my UK account without any issue - but when we're in the UK these localisation options disappear. So Disney clearly has those options but chooses not to offer them.
So right now, at least we can still buy DVDs or have those shipped over. But it's clear that Disney wants to stop distribution of physical media - as they've already done in some regions.
What then for multilingual families? Just "suck it up" and don't have access to content in my language, because I don't happen to currently live in Poland?
While there is the bigger picture to consider, my solution to get access to Swedish content for my then-partner while we were in the US was to use a VPN. Mullvad worked for local content, but if you still have friends/family back home, a tailscale exit node might work better, especially for Disney+.
I don't pay for Disney+ in Poland because they don't have Russian. Even though it's a native language of 1M+ immigrants and 99% of their content is translated. They probably just don't want my money, I have no other explanation.
raising bi-lingual kids is much easier when you can give them second language media, and it doesn't seem like it would be an expensive flag for Disney to flip...
might even be an opportunity to rebrand themselves as educational...
The time spent re-ripping my CD collection to FLAC, my DVD collection to MKV, etc, has been well spent. I can rapidly enough transcode from that to "Whatever I happen to need for where I'm listening to it," and our vehicles have quite the range of local music and audiobook content for road trips that doesn't rely on streaming anything.
You can get CDs for (usually) very little on eBay, same for DVDs, and I don't have to worry about the pissing matches between a corporate conglomerate that views me as "a wallet with eyeballs" and another one that views me as "eyeballs with a wallet" getting in the way.
Meanwhile, vinyl sales continue to skyrocket, and more and more people are interested in records, growing collections, refurbishing old equipment (both to produce and play records), etc. I expect these are rather heavily correlated, because in 50 years from now, nobody is going to be able to play any of the streaming "content" that flows around. "This is my grandparents favorite Spotify playlist" won't be a thing, but you can certainly go cruising through old photo albums, old record collections, etc.
I remain optimistic that we're in the starting phases of a rejection of the online [handwaves at everything digital consumer tech], and it's going to be aided greatly by stuff exactly like this. Profits and corporate pissing matches over "actually doing something people want to pay money for."
Google and Disney both seem to be demonstrating that once people lose trust in you, it's basically impossible to get it back. Nobody trusts a new Google product will last more than a year or two, which leads to it getting killed off for lack of use, and Disney/Pixar seem to have forgotten that the purpose of the entertainment industry is to "entertain the people who might want to see your movie." Other studios are doing fine, so there's clearly a demand, but Disney has been dropping an impressive string of box office bombs lately, because a lot of people no longer trust them.
I remain optimistic that we're in the starting phases of a rejection of the online [handwaves at everything digital consumer tech], and it's going to be aided greatly by stuff exactly like this. Profits and corporate pissing matches over "actually doing something people want to pay money for."
Your optimism is unfounded. Gen Z thinks it's cool to own an album or two, but they're not building collections. Scrap booking is popular right now, but it's not quite the same thing as photo albums. Everything is ephemeral and by and large they're just fine with that.
Music is very important to me. So important that I never dared to trust streaming services. Not only do they require an internet connection (something that is not always available), but if the service experiences downtime, license changes, etc., that music is not available.
If I'm going to spend my money on music, I'm going to spend it on music in a form that isn't reliant on the ongoing operation of some service somewhere. I want to add it to my collection so I can actually listen to it anytime and anywhere.
I collect portable music players and hi-fi gear. The music gives me great joy, but the hardware also gives me joy. I’m likely an outlier in this realm.
I pre-ordered my new Peter Gabriel I/0 album two months ago on CD and enjoyed the anticipation of waiting. I steadfastly avoided his digital pre-releases. I was not disappointed! It a great album and a beautiful sonic experience.
I took a couple of my favorite tracks and mixed it into my Peter Gabriel minidisc mix-tape. I have numerous portable players to choose from in my collection to listen on the go including a few beautifully designed personal CD players.
I travel internationally frequently and I’ve noticed TSA occasionally doesn’t know what a CD player is. At least the younger agents.
I wish I could do that, but unfortunately my music taste is so varied/fluid that it would take thousands of dollars and a full day's work to purchase and download all the music I listen to these days. And a couple years from now I'd need to do it all over again to update based on my new taste.
I was amazed to discover, a few months ago, that iPeng is still under active development!
I went to set the alarm on my Squeezebox Boom one night and the time picker widget was completely broken. By the next week they'd pushed out an update to fix it.
That kind of dedication in a developer is fantastic to see.
> Such an old system (written in Perl), but still runs great!
This is the kind of hardware I love. Stable over time, no dependencies. I moved all my music to squeezebox system in 2004 and everything works wonderfully today.
Logitech Media Server is very common in the Home Assistant world. I'm in the process of setting a server up now actually, and I've never used it before.
At least so far, Bandcamp has not changed after the sale (neither sale). You can still buy music, and try it out for multiple album streams before buying (unless the artist or label disable it, which is rare), and download as FLAC.
Granted, not always useful if what you want is from major labels, but still, keep in mind that there are options.
> At least so far, Bandcamp has not changed after the sale (neither sale)
The second sale was just a couple months ago, and while you can still buy music and download it, it's not true that "nothing has changed" since then. There have been quite a lot of changes, just not on that one front. And it's only been two months, so it's way too early to conclude that Songtradr won't gut it more thoroughly.
Not much changed during the time Epic owned Bandcamp, sure, but that's because Epic only bought it in order to gain standing for their lawsuits with Apple. It didn't fit into their business strategy otherwise, so they had no need to mess with it - they literally just needed it to be a legal subsidiary as a pawn for an unrelated legal battle. The same is not true with Songtradr, which has its own motives and objectives that relate to Bandcamp's actual operations and business.
Wasn't there some recent article about how Bandcamp got acquired by a competitor and is more or less being left to rot on the vine?
I agree, the FLAC downloads are a major perk of it, and I'll happily buy music there. But I wouldn't trust it to be around long term at this point. It's too consumer-friendly to exist long term in this modern world we live in. :(
For what's it's worth, I use mp3caprice.com to download zipped music. The prices are pretty fair and I don't have to store another CD on the shelf. The bitrate is decent and I can find albums that aren't available anymore. The bonus for me is, since I subscribe to Mojo magazine, I can Youtube new artists and if I like them, go download the music.
I buy mp3s so I will always have them. People think I am a crank- maybe so.
The difference with media today is that the control often stays in the hands of another party, often not the rights holder. I can accept that knowing that everything I buy I am just renting.
The thing that scares me is how a third party can make something effectively impossible to discover. In this generation that's done for profit. But you can imagine where that will lead when what everyone sees is curated in a way they aren't aware of.
There's like not one but multiple microgenres of music you could likely cobble together just out of working musicians' songs complaining about the music industry. In the modern world, probably the by-the-numbers majority of working artists in every medium can effectively self-publish to some degree or another, so as the intermediaries have grown more and more demanding and both creator- and consumer-hostile, they have also become less of a necessary evil for our ability to engage with the works creative people are putting out into the world. Piracy is the most natural and reasonable way to use current technology to consume media, and the massively successful propaganda campaigns to instill a folk belief that it's somehow wrong or doing harm are incredible, given how much quality of life for both the producers and consumers of the actual content is lost in the name of marginal gains in profitability and massive gains in control by intermediary conglomerates that are increasingly unnecessary. It is only by a combination of this mythology and the ever-tighter industry collusion with an increasingly authoritarian surveillance state to make laws to terrorize people who just want their music that this parasitic shape the industry has taken is surviving
To me, the notion that a transferrable market-monopoly ownership of intellectual rights to a creative work was ever about helping creators is the kind of ridiculous farce that people like economists can get away with because we've been trained to believe that fancy experts saying counterintuitive things about "incentives" must know something we don't, but even if you believe intellectual property has value, it is not of value for massive corporations to sit on a chokepoint between human beings and their access to their own cultural touchstones
A central, government-run library only shifts censorship from "not profitable" to "not in line with authority". It's not automatically better, but it's the logical one anyway when there's a ruling State.
I'm considering some kind of combination of autoloader feeding either Exact Audio Copy (which isn't set up for them) or dbpoweramp (which apparently is set up for them) to get metadata, then I guess I will have to pirate or rebuy discs when the AccurateRip indicates that there's some damage to the disc.
I've avoided iTunes and its descendants due to all of the horror stories about destroyed music libraries and music "helpfully" replaced in error. Similarly, I haven't signed up for any streaming music since I have an el-cheapo plan and these services sound like they tell you what to listen to.
I think having somewhat weird tastes in music and being particular about it has some overlap with having to seek technical solutions which are also not-mainsteam. I am reminded of Pictures for Sad Children, wherein a character's musical preference is "Whatever is on the radio, played a reasonable volume." and realize I am at the other end of that spectrum.
There are some highly opinionated open source tools that do this, like whipper. Getting it all working is.. a bit frustrating. I do wish that whipper had more knobs to tweak rather than being very opinionated in how it rips and what it outputs.
For fixing up metadata of your existing collection there is Picard.
> I've avoided iTunes and its descendants due to all of the horror stories about destroyed music libraries and music "helpfully" replaced in error.
At least on Windows (where iTunes currently still survives in its original form) and with no Apple Music or iTunes Match or whatever subscription to muddle things up, and with the option to let it manage the folder structure of my music library turned off I can't complain about it, though. It does what it's supposed to do and doesn't cause any problems.
Although I mostly keep using it for historical reasons, because I used to have an iPod, and when that got replaced by an Android phone, at that time the best solution for syncing music to it was to keep using iTunes together with some third party app which was able to not just sync the music, but also play counts and ratings, too.
I'm curious as to when exactly these takes are generally going to move from
"Please let me have the thing I want and reasonably should have"
to an open
"Eff it, the tech is here, I'm just taking copies now and you should too."
(not that I ought to support that sort of thing, since I am a lawyer and we have promulgated standards of professional behavior I shall tell all of you that that second thing is bad, very bad.)
I started Crossies to solve this problem. My plan was to store physical media for people, and give them remote access. When I heard about Murfie shutting down 4 years ago, I couldn't let it happen and had to get involved.
I'm passionate about media ownership. When people question what I'm doing, wonder why anybody would want CDs, or tell me I should just give up, I think about all the transient services and missing media. I'm in this for the long haul, and I'm not going to give up. Media ownership means something, and I'm fighting to make it a reality.
The other day I was listening to recorded live music on Internet Archive. One of the bands sounded like a lot of fun, so I looked them up online. And what do you know, they're touring and coming to my relatively small town in January. Bought two tickets for 70 bucks from the local venue so we could enjoy some live music. Maybe buy some T-shirts or CDs.
So well done, giving your live music away for free. Made you some money, and made me feel like we were doing it right for a change.
In a very strange way it's almost a return to the pre-VHS days (for video) and pre-vinyl days (for music). You could enjoy the content streamed to you over the airwaves but that was it.
There was very little time like that. Where you couldn't hold in your hands the content that you bought.
Radio broadcast becomes popular in 1920-1930. While records playing speed standardizes in the late 1920s. Say Wikipedia.The vinyl single and LP are later but you easily buy records long before vinyl. If anything, I don't know that there were paying streaming formats in early radio.
There was probably quite a bit of content that was played live on the radio - and not available as recordings. And it would have been pretty hardcore to make your own recording of the stream.
Glad to see this pop up, its been a weirdly big struggle for me as a new-ish parent.
For a while my ancient CD collection and healthy ecosystem of local used vinyl / CD stores had us in a nice routine in conjunction with youtube-dl and my posse of old Sony voice memo usb mp3 players.
Then youtube-dl wasn't a thing anymore (maybe it is again?)...
Then we had to get a new car (a Tacoma)...
No CD player, no aux cable.
I had really bad early experiences with apple music and Spotify not having stuff I wanted. Unclear artist support reputations also (Im no expert there). But it all had heavy Enshittification vibes early on IMHO.
Anyway somehow in my exhausted dad mental state I've concluded that buying albums on iTunes like a maniac is at least worth a try before augmenting my car to have an aux cable and / or peripheral CD player. I held off buying albums on iTunes literally until 2 months ago. Very strange but maybe working.
Anyway curious what other folks are doing as far as listening to music. This article was spot on but I needed a Solutions section...
Plug it into a 12v socket (cigarette lighter socket) and plug the audio cable into the headphones jack. Tune the radio to the set frequency. Bob's your uncle.
It seems that we've entered the rent-seeking phase of corporate capitalism.
Why spend any extra time, money, or energy making new products or services when you can instead make more money doing nothing but using your outsized political and economic power to coerce and extort consumers instead.
At this point it's impossible to see how any new merger or acquisition isn't just another step in the wrong direction, handing over yet more power to a small few.
At what point is a company too large to effectively serve the public interest? How can we turn this process around and redistribute the economic power of these gigantic corporations?
A tiny musician withdrew their music, so I'm not sure how relevant breaking up mega firms is.
In cases like this, a creator puts their own music on a service like Amuse. They or that service (acting as their "publisher") removed it, which removes Apple's right to stream it.
> At what point is a company too large to effectively serve the public interest?
I use the term "maxium tribe size" to describe the human capability (or incapability) of extending compassion and understanding to a group. Companies don't fail. People fail within companies. People fail other people and hide behind "limited liability" and the sham that is corporate personhood.
Every person has a different MaxT. You may not feel the pain of violating this constraint yourself, but lots of people under you will suffer. You may actually feel GREAT, look at all the respect I have gained! I can make things happen, people listen to me... or now I can just ignore them...
You don't care because you are blinded by success.
Money and power are the worst poisons this world offers. It turns otherwise intelligent and caring people into awful piles of human effluence. It is IMPOSSIBLE to gain sufficient power to drive a company and not lose your sense of humanity. The idea that you will not violate your maximum tribe size in this exercise is insulting. You will quickly be insulated from the consequences of your actions, and no matter how depraved your behavior there will be a line of people congratulating and cheering you on because they desperately want to be the next person in line to enjoy the ride you are on.
The people driving enshittification are not human. They may share our genes but they are not part of our society or species anymore.
I have access to 2 or 3 streaming services plus Spotify, which I haven't used in a long time because bittorrent content is always better and faster. Just get the files and play them wherever you want, however you want.
> Enshittification has reached new heights, as Sony just decided to yoink over a thousand seasons—that's right, seasons, not episodes—of Discovery shows from the PlayStation Store.
> But they're not just removing them from the store.
> They're removing them from people's libraries.
That's called fraud. Why in the world are we not prosecuting it?
Capitalism responds to demand. We have to stop paying for convenience and start demanding better. Save your money from Streaming, purchase used and physical only. Force the market to adapt to you.
The more power companies have to regulate their consumers, as well as the information available to them, the less responsive to demand they have to be. We are in a monopolized enough environment across multiple industries that we can't assume the dynamics of supply and demand work anything like an idealized "free market", if such a thing has ever existed
No, capitalism responds to the richest. That's the foundation of Capitalism. To think that anything can be done if just everyone paid differently is the epitome of free-for-all lawless libertarianism.
How have purchases influenced copyright laws being pushed again and again as Disney demands ?
How have purchases changed improved working conditions? Biodiversity ? The climate ?
We can't buy a better future, because there'll always be someone richer than us. We need to build it directly and ban the illusion that is the market
The causative factor behind Doctorow's enshittification is these asshat companies controlling both the demand and the supply side.
Disintermediation killed the mom and pop music stores, streaming outright killed physical media. Kids starting university don't understand the concept of a file system; documents just live in the docs app, right?
Maybe we end up in a situation where there's no escape because the median user is held hostage by the lack of knowledge how the internet should have been.
I still use whatever they call the service where my ripped CDs get uploaded to my Apple Music library. I have quite a few albums physically that their library lacks and it's been nice to be able to listen to them in my car.
Over the last 3 to 4 years though more and more of my music living in the cloud has gotten corrupted, to the point that something like 1 in 10 songs is unlistenable. The source material in my main library still plays fine, nothing wrong with it, but play it on any other device it pops and skips.
Doing some googling, I don't seem to be alone in this. It's honestly infuriating and has me potentially searching for some other service.
i've posted this reply, but i will copy paste it again here:
you know, my default stance is pirating is the way. i don't give a shit who "owns" the media. if it's in my harddisk, it should not go away unless I delete it or the system (fs / hw / what have you) is kill. good thing I don't enjoy entertainment like movies or music. but in the small chance I like it, I'd go to the store, get the disk, rip it or just torrent it.
but bro! that's immoral and you will suffer in hell!
nah bro, we're already in hell.
bro! them popos will catch your ass and put you in jail!
> as Sony just decided to yoink over a thousand seasons—that's right, seasons, not episodes—of Discovery shows from the PlayStation Store
Didn't realize Sony owned Discovery, oh wait they don't. So it's actually Discovery who's licensing caused Sony to be legally obligated to remove the shows.
Sucks if you bought it but yeah just like the games in your Steam library you never actually owned it, you merely licensed it.
> Sucks if you bought it but yeah just like the games in your Steam library you never actually owned it, you merely licensed it.
If you're lied to about a "sale" and it's really just a shitty rental, we have a different word for that: FRAUD.
And the action that Sony hacked devices and removed said content? It mirrors the individual form of this ( https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=38614624 ), which is "horribly illegal". I argue it pales in comparison to Sony's actions.
Download the MP3 from where? If you want a copy of a well known song, you might find one, but for something else you might struggle to find one. Your best bet is to buy used CDs and rip them yourself.
chx|2 years ago
You can download all these from torrent trackers.
Tell me true, if you can't buy them how on earth it is piracy to download them?
pavel_lishin|2 years ago
People would argue that it's up to the seller whether they want to make their creations available. If I don't want to sell you something, then I'd entertain the argument that downloading it anyway is in some sense immoral or unethical.
But in your situation, you've already fucking bought it! It's as if you placed a pick-up order at the bookstore, showed up to pick up your books, and they told you to eat shit. In which case, acquiring it through other means is completely acceptable, morally and ethically.
Modified3019|2 years ago
https://github.com/easlice/bandcamp-downloader
I have a windows oriented “get past setup pain points” tutorial here: https://github.com/easlice/bandcamp-downloader/issues/21
For generating a cookie file, I suggest just using https://github.com/hrdl-github/cookies-txt I should really write up a full Linux and windows setup guide and submit it.
Likewise, people who use bandcamp are likely to use GOG, which also has purchase archiving tools available on GitHub. I’ve used https://github.com/Kalanyr/gogrepoc for a long time, but there are actually multiple projects now.
niccl|2 years ago
My daughter, doing a journalism course assignment, once asked Maddy Prior of Steeleye Span (not a _huge_ artist, but reasonably well known towards the end of last century) about this. Maddy's comment was basically the same. She'd rather you bought something legally, but if it's not available (some of their back catalogue had disappeared) then Maddy thought it was fine to 'pirate' it.
kleiba|2 years ago
This is were you went wrong.
Freak_NL|2 years ago
JohnFen|2 years ago
Always download the flac of the music you purchase on Bandcamp. Then your purchases won't ever go away.
c0pium|2 years ago
Damogran6|2 years ago
RCA Lyra protected music? Gone.
Paid $10 to Harvey Danger for 'Little by Little' and hey, I can still get it. That's a surprise.
gambiting|2 years ago
For context - we're a Polish family living in the UK(like 2 million other Polish people). We have a small child who loves Disney films, and because he is normally exposed to English(and speaks it fluently) I'd like him to at least watch cartoons in Polish. But Disney region locks most(not all, but majority) of Polish localisation to Poland only. When we visit Poland I can watch all Disney content in Polish on my UK account without any issue - but when we're in the UK these localisation options disappear. So Disney clearly has those options but chooses not to offer them.
So right now, at least we can still buy DVDs or have those shipped over. But it's clear that Disney wants to stop distribution of physical media - as they've already done in some regions.
What then for multilingual families? Just "suck it up" and don't have access to content in my language, because I don't happen to currently live in Poland?
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jareklupinski|2 years ago
raising bi-lingual kids is much easier when you can give them second language media, and it doesn't seem like it would be an expensive flag for Disney to flip...
might even be an opportunity to rebrand themselves as educational...
keiferski|2 years ago
https://35mm.online/
Syonyk|2 years ago
The time spent re-ripping my CD collection to FLAC, my DVD collection to MKV, etc, has been well spent. I can rapidly enough transcode from that to "Whatever I happen to need for where I'm listening to it," and our vehicles have quite the range of local music and audiobook content for road trips that doesn't rely on streaming anything.
You can get CDs for (usually) very little on eBay, same for DVDs, and I don't have to worry about the pissing matches between a corporate conglomerate that views me as "a wallet with eyeballs" and another one that views me as "eyeballs with a wallet" getting in the way.
Meanwhile, vinyl sales continue to skyrocket, and more and more people are interested in records, growing collections, refurbishing old equipment (both to produce and play records), etc. I expect these are rather heavily correlated, because in 50 years from now, nobody is going to be able to play any of the streaming "content" that flows around. "This is my grandparents favorite Spotify playlist" won't be a thing, but you can certainly go cruising through old photo albums, old record collections, etc.
I remain optimistic that we're in the starting phases of a rejection of the online [handwaves at everything digital consumer tech], and it's going to be aided greatly by stuff exactly like this. Profits and corporate pissing matches over "actually doing something people want to pay money for."
Google and Disney both seem to be demonstrating that once people lose trust in you, it's basically impossible to get it back. Nobody trusts a new Google product will last more than a year or two, which leads to it getting killed off for lack of use, and Disney/Pixar seem to have forgotten that the purpose of the entertainment industry is to "entertain the people who might want to see your movie." Other studios are doing fine, so there's clearly a demand, but Disney has been dropping an impressive string of box office bombs lately, because a lot of people no longer trust them.
taylodl|2 years ago
Your optimism is unfounded. Gen Z thinks it's cool to own an album or two, but they're not building collections. Scrap booking is popular right now, but it's not quite the same thing as photo albums. Everything is ephemeral and by and large they're just fine with that.
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JohnFen|2 years ago
If I'm going to spend my money on music, I'm going to spend it on music in a form that isn't reliant on the ongoing operation of some service somewhere. I want to add it to my collection so I can actually listen to it anytime and anywhere.
LiquidPolymer|2 years ago
I pre-ordered my new Peter Gabriel I/0 album two months ago on CD and enjoyed the anticipation of waiting. I steadfastly avoided his digital pre-releases. I was not disappointed! It a great album and a beautiful sonic experience.
I took a couple of my favorite tracks and mixed it into my Peter Gabriel minidisc mix-tape. I have numerous portable players to choose from in my collection to listen on the go including a few beautifully designed personal CD players.
I travel internationally frequently and I’ve noticed TSA occasionally doesn’t know what a CD player is. At least the younger agents.
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DavideNL|2 years ago
Such an old system (written in Perl), but still runs great!
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Logitech_Media_Server https://github.com/Logitech/slimserver https://hub.docker.com/r/lmscommunity/logitechmediaserver
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predakanga|2 years ago
I went to set the alarm on my Squeezebox Boom one night and the time picker widget was completely broken. By the next week they'd pushed out an update to fix it.
That kind of dedication in a developer is fantastic to see.
jjav|2 years ago
This is the kind of hardware I love. Stable over time, no dependencies. I moved all my music to squeezebox system in 2004 and everything works wonderfully today.
CobaltFire|2 years ago
AtiRadeon9700|2 years ago
With how warm it was in standby I bet it cost more money in power bills than itself don'tcha know.
Semaphor|2 years ago
Granted, not always useful if what you want is from major labels, but still, keep in mind that there are options.
chimeracoder|2 years ago
The second sale was just a couple months ago, and while you can still buy music and download it, it's not true that "nothing has changed" since then. There have been quite a lot of changes, just not on that one front. And it's only been two months, so it's way too early to conclude that Songtradr won't gut it more thoroughly.
Not much changed during the time Epic owned Bandcamp, sure, but that's because Epic only bought it in order to gain standing for their lawsuits with Apple. It didn't fit into their business strategy otherwise, so they had no need to mess with it - they literally just needed it to be a legal subsidiary as a pawn for an unrelated legal battle. The same is not true with Songtradr, which has its own motives and objectives that relate to Bandcamp's actual operations and business.
Syonyk|2 years ago
I agree, the FLAC downloads are a major perk of it, and I'll happily buy music there. But I wouldn't trust it to be around long term at this point. It's too consumer-friendly to exist long term in this modern world we live in. :(
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georgeecollins|2 years ago
The difference with media today is that the control often stays in the hands of another party, often not the rights holder. I can accept that knowing that everything I buy I am just renting.
The thing that scares me is how a third party can make something effectively impossible to discover. In this generation that's done for profit. But you can imagine where that will lead when what everyone sees is curated in a way they aren't aware of.
advael|2 years ago
To me, the notion that a transferrable market-monopoly ownership of intellectual rights to a creative work was ever about helping creators is the kind of ridiculous farce that people like economists can get away with because we've been trained to believe that fancy experts saying counterintuitive things about "incentives" must know something we don't, but even if you believe intellectual property has value, it is not of value for massive corporations to sit on a chokepoint between human beings and their access to their own cultural touchstones
RecycledEle|2 years ago
Imagine having every book ever written, for free, all your life.
Imagine authors and inventors being compensated twice what they are usually paid in the USA, while the corporate lawyers panhandle.
I know the lawyers would end up as party higher-ups still screwing us, but I can dream.
rakoo|2 years ago
TheFuzzball|2 years ago
BobaFloutist|2 years ago
I'm genuinely curious.
at_a_remove|2 years ago
I've avoided iTunes and its descendants due to all of the horror stories about destroyed music libraries and music "helpfully" replaced in error. Similarly, I haven't signed up for any streaming music since I have an el-cheapo plan and these services sound like they tell you what to listen to.
I think having somewhat weird tastes in music and being particular about it has some overlap with having to seek technical solutions which are also not-mainsteam. I am reminded of Pictures for Sad Children, wherein a character's musical preference is "Whatever is on the radio, played a reasonable volume." and realize I am at the other end of that spectrum.
miah_|2 years ago
For fixing up metadata of your existing collection there is Picard.
https://github.com/whipper-team/whipper
https://picard.musicbrainz.org/
iggldiggl|2 years ago
At least on Windows (where iTunes currently still survives in its original form) and with no Apple Music or iTunes Match or whatever subscription to muddle things up, and with the option to let it manage the folder structure of my music library turned off I can't complain about it, though. It does what it's supposed to do and doesn't cause any problems.
Although I mostly keep using it for historical reasons, because I used to have an iPod, and when that got replaced by an Android phone, at that time the best solution for syncing music to it was to keep using iTunes together with some third party app which was able to not just sync the music, but also play counts and ratings, too.
paradox460|2 years ago
jrm4|2 years ago
"Please let me have the thing I want and reasonably should have"
to an open
"Eff it, the tech is here, I'm just taking copies now and you should too."
(not that I ought to support that sort of thing, since I am a lawyer and we have promulgated standards of professional behavior I shall tell all of you that that second thing is bad, very bad.)
pontifier|2 years ago
I'm passionate about media ownership. When people question what I'm doing, wonder why anybody would want CDs, or tell me I should just give up, I think about all the transient services and missing media. I'm in this for the long haul, and I'm not going to give up. Media ownership means something, and I'm fighting to make it a reality.
beej71|2 years ago
So well done, giving your live music away for free. Made you some money, and made me feel like we were doing it right for a change.
oldandboring|2 years ago
creer|2 years ago
Radio broadcast becomes popular in 1920-1930. While records playing speed standardizes in the late 1920s. Say Wikipedia.The vinyl single and LP are later but you easily buy records long before vinyl. If anything, I don't know that there were paying streaming formats in early radio.
There was probably quite a bit of content that was played live on the radio - and not available as recordings. And it would have been pretty hardcore to make your own recording of the stream.
unknown|2 years ago
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pkdpic|2 years ago
For a while my ancient CD collection and healthy ecosystem of local used vinyl / CD stores had us in a nice routine in conjunction with youtube-dl and my posse of old Sony voice memo usb mp3 players.
Then youtube-dl wasn't a thing anymore (maybe it is again?)...
Then we had to get a new car (a Tacoma)...
No CD player, no aux cable.
I had really bad early experiences with apple music and Spotify not having stuff I wanted. Unclear artist support reputations also (Im no expert there). But it all had heavy Enshittification vibes early on IMHO.
Anyway somehow in my exhausted dad mental state I've concluded that buying albums on iTunes like a maniac is at least worth a try before augmenting my car to have an aux cable and / or peripheral CD player. I held off buying albums on iTunes literally until 2 months ago. Very strange but maybe working.
Anyway curious what other folks are doing as far as listening to music. This article was spot on but I needed a Solutions section...
all2|2 years ago
And occasionally you can find one of their TLDs just by doing a search on DDG or Brave.
teddyh|2 years ago
yt-dlp is definitely a thing: <https://github.com/yt-dlp/yt-dlp>
verve_rat|2 years ago
Plug it into a 12v socket (cigarette lighter socket) and plug the audio cable into the headphones jack. Tune the radio to the set frequency. Bob's your uncle.
https://www.amazon.com/s?k=fm+transmitter+for+car&crid=XYUJ3...
BobaFloutist|2 years ago
gkbrk|2 years ago
https://github.com/ytdl-org/youtube-dl/commits/master
xethos|2 years ago
spicyusername|2 years ago
Why spend any extra time, money, or energy making new products or services when you can instead make more money doing nothing but using your outsized political and economic power to coerce and extort consumers instead.
At this point it's impossible to see how any new merger or acquisition isn't just another step in the wrong direction, handing over yet more power to a small few.
At what point is a company too large to effectively serve the public interest? How can we turn this process around and redistribute the economic power of these gigantic corporations?
llm_nerd|2 years ago
In cases like this, a creator puts their own music on a service like Amuse. They or that service (acting as their "publisher") removed it, which removes Apple's right to stream it.
Apple didn't take away this guy's Ladybug Music.
dirtybirdnj|2 years ago
I use the term "maxium tribe size" to describe the human capability (or incapability) of extending compassion and understanding to a group. Companies don't fail. People fail within companies. People fail other people and hide behind "limited liability" and the sham that is corporate personhood.
Every person has a different MaxT. You may not feel the pain of violating this constraint yourself, but lots of people under you will suffer. You may actually feel GREAT, look at all the respect I have gained! I can make things happen, people listen to me... or now I can just ignore them...
You don't care because you are blinded by success.
Money and power are the worst poisons this world offers. It turns otherwise intelligent and caring people into awful piles of human effluence. It is IMPOSSIBLE to gain sufficient power to drive a company and not lose your sense of humanity. The idea that you will not violate your maximum tribe size in this exercise is insulting. You will quickly be insulated from the consequences of your actions, and no matter how depraved your behavior there will be a line of people congratulating and cheering you on because they desperately want to be the next person in line to enjoy the ride you are on.
The people driving enshittification are not human. They may share our genes but they are not part of our society or species anymore.
Syonyk|2 years ago
Doctorow's word "Enshittification" (which, amazingly, has a rather filled in Wikipedia page now - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Enshittification ) captures it quite well.
kieto|2 years ago
thomastjeffery|2 years ago
> But they're not just removing them from the store.
> They're removing them from people's libraries.
That's called fraud. Why in the world are we not prosecuting it?
widowlark|2 years ago
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rakoo|2 years ago
How have purchases influenced copyright laws being pushed again and again as Disney demands ?
How have purchases changed improved working conditions? Biodiversity ? The climate ?
We can't buy a better future, because there'll always be someone richer than us. We need to build it directly and ban the illusion that is the market
isoprophlex|2 years ago
Disintermediation killed the mom and pop music stores, streaming outright killed physical media. Kids starting university don't understand the concept of a file system; documents just live in the docs app, right?
Maybe we end up in a situation where there's no escape because the median user is held hostage by the lack of knowledge how the internet should have been.
akokanka|2 years ago
donatj|2 years ago
Over the last 3 to 4 years though more and more of my music living in the cloud has gotten corrupted, to the point that something like 1 in 10 songs is unlistenable. The source material in my main library still plays fine, nothing wrong with it, but play it on any other device it pops and skips.
Doing some googling, I don't seem to be alone in this. It's honestly infuriating and has me potentially searching for some other service.
lemper|2 years ago
you know, my default stance is pirating is the way. i don't give a shit who "owns" the media. if it's in my harddisk, it should not go away unless I delete it or the system (fs / hw / what have you) is kill. good thing I don't enjoy entertainment like movies or music. but in the small chance I like it, I'd go to the store, get the disk, rip it or just torrent it.
but bro! that's immoral and you will suffer in hell!
nah bro, we're already in hell.
bro! them popos will catch your ass and put you in jail!
nah bro, if they don't know, it's not illegal.
whywhywhywhy|2 years ago
Didn't realize Sony owned Discovery, oh wait they don't. So it's actually Discovery who's licensing caused Sony to be legally obligated to remove the shows.
Sucks if you bought it but yeah just like the games in your Steam library you never actually owned it, you merely licensed it.
jefftk|2 years ago
BobaFloutist|2 years ago
"Licensed" is a made up word. Did I buy it? It's mine. Did I rent it? It's no longer mine after the rental period is over. End of story.
CaptainFever|2 years ago
pierat|2 years ago
If you're lied to about a "sale" and it's really just a shitty rental, we have a different word for that: FRAUD.
And the action that Sony hacked devices and removed said content? It mirrors the individual form of this ( https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=38614624 ), which is "horribly illegal". I argue it pales in comparison to Sony's actions.
high_5|2 years ago
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sertbdfgbnfgsd|2 years ago
- Play on VLC.
Not complicated.
mattl|2 years ago
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