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utexaspunk | 2 years ago

It's sort of like the PC User Groups that were more or less rendered redundant by the internet. I remember going to the HAL-PC (Houston Area League of PC Users) monthly general meetings as a kid and there could easily be over a thousand people there when they'd do things like having Microsoft and Lotus come and present their latest versions of Excel/123 in a "shootout". There were great door prizes, too. The internet came and there just wasn't a need for that anymore. It's kind of a shame, though, just because it felt like a real community thing.

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jasonwatkinspdx|2 years ago

Yeah, broadband basically killed the LAN party scene as well.

As a teenager my friends and I got into hosting occasional LAN parties. The very first were so we could play Doom deathmatch over serial connections lol. But anyhow it was something I really liked.

When I moved halfway across the country I didn't know anyone. I googled around and found the local major LAN parties. I went to one that was hosted every couple of months in a union hall, with around 200 attendees. At the first one I ended up sitting next to a group of chill folks, and they let me know they did their own dozen person party every other Saturday.

So I started attending that, and it resulted in several life long friendships. We've all changed, grown, moved, had kids, etc but most of us are still in touch. Even for the folks that moved away we meet up every summer or two and do a canoe camping trip or such.

Now, to be fair, I've made life long friends purely on the internet as well, but I do miss those old LAN party days. It was a lot of fun staying up until dawn playing rocket arena et all over and over.

Also to be fair the LAN parties were not hospitable to women, especially the larger ones. On the rare occasion they did try it out they'd get hounded by the least socially aware idiots in the room, and no one else really did anything about it (including myself, as I didn't understand these dynamics at that age).

These days with discord and everything some of that vibe is back in the purely online context, but still I don't think there will ever really be anything like those in person events.

mikrotikker|2 years ago

We had women at our LAN parties in the 2000s, usually GFs or girls from the friend group. Not many played games so they'd just hang out and socialise amongst themselves or maybe play a console if there was one. So much fun.

volkk|2 years ago

it's truly sad. i keep waiting for a trend reversal where people would instead prefer real life interaction because everyone's exhausted by the soulessness of zoom & screens. i really think it's coming, but i keep miscalculating when

tivert|2 years ago

> it's truly sad. i keep waiting for a trend reversal where people would instead prefer real life interaction because everyone's exhausted by the soulessness of zoom & screens. i really think it's coming, but i keep miscalculating when

I don't think this is a "trend," so much as the environment changing in unhealthy ways that we're not adapted for.

It's like a tree whose seeds will only germinate if the ground is just the right conditions, if the climate changes and those conditions no longer occur, it's not all the sudden going to start making seeds that germinate in other conditions. It's just going to fail to reproduce.

If the past, there was a lot more necessity to going out of the house, which has a lot of important side-effects, because you couldn't accomplish certain goals any other way. Technology provides easier and more isolating ways of achieving those goals, removing the necessity of going out. Now the needed side-effect are activities that require will, but people aren't set up as well to pursue them directly. That means most people won't do them or won't do them as consistently.

An example is exercise. Everyone got enough when there was no option except to walk everywhere. Now it's an option, so people are much less healthy due to lack of exercise.

dpkirchner|2 years ago

It's happening here, where I'm at (smallish city in the PNW). I've started going to a near-weekly board game meetup where we inevitably talk about more than games (computers, sometimes news of the day). It's not a large group but it's about the same size as the Linux/UNIX groups I participated in a few decades ago.

ghaff|2 years ago

You basically don't attend the public sessions at events to learn things you couldn't learn otherwise. At least keynotes are almost always streamed and companies give out very little in the way of datasheets and other printed information which is all available online anyway.

Yeah, there are breakout sessions, and they're a good way to have some focused time on something you're interested in. But anyone who regularly goes to conferences will tell you it's mostly about the hallway track.

tshaddox|2 years ago

I think it's trending that way, but there are still going to be niche interest groups where you're almost certainly not going to have enough other members in your geographic vicinity to have in-person meetings. In the 1990s if you lived in a 10,000 person town you'd be lucky to find 4 other people in your age group with such niche interests as, say, personal computers or video games. Obviously those two things are quite widespread now, but there are new things that are just as niche as those once were.

FirmwareBurner|2 years ago

IRL events similar to E3 are still happening but worldwide and at a smaller scale. For example John Romero attended such an even in my insignificant EU country. It was awesome and not as expensive as E3 but of course much smaller so it couldn't cover as much as E3.

otteromkram|2 years ago

Totally not exhausted and please don't pepper that idea into HR's head.

If you need friends, feel free to do so outside of work. I'd be happy to meet up with you outside of work. Lots of folks in your area will.

But, let people who enjoy remote work continue to do so without trying to muck it up. Please.

ghaff|2 years ago

There are still meetups of various sorts but I don't really disagree. The days of the Boston Computer Society having offices and renting out Symphony Hall to have Steve Jobs basically do a reprise of the NeXT launch are long gone.

sonicanatidae|2 years ago

This happened a lot. 2600 Magazine had locations for meet ups with ones fellow hackers. I, personally, wrote in and had them remove 2 locations, since people stopped showing up to them after the evolution of information we're in now.

Ironic, imo. It all started with BBSes, turned into personal meets, then went right back to digital, because of ease of use and features not supported with the BBS style of community.

I miss BBSes some days. It was a fun time.