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nonviol | 2 years ago

Two states along the 1967 borders. If Israel and the US agreed to this, the international community would overwhelmingly support it. This would be more than enough to guarantee Israel's security.

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hluska|2 years ago

As one of many examples in the last several decades, the Oslo accords were moving in that direction. Hamas stepped up the violence to such an extent that the death by terrorism rate in Israel increased almost 600% and Itzhak Rabin was assassinated. The public isn’t sure what happened to Yassar Arafat but it didn’t end well for him either. Rabin’s language was changing quickly and given another few years, entity would have likely changed to state.

We’re looking for ideas that end in less violence and where the leaders involved aren’t assassinated.

yterdy|2 years ago

>Itzhak Rabin was assassinated

By who? Your phrasing suggests it was a part of Hamas' terrorism campaign.

Central to the conflict is the Israeli refusal to accept responsibility for the current state of affairs, or to recognize any conception of proportionality. "We f*cked up, and we have not treated Palestinian life as equal to Israeli life," would go a long way towards reconciliation, but Israel will never admit wrongdoing even in the face of actually having committed wrongdoing.

nec4b|2 years ago

Unfortunately the Palestinians don't agree with that solution.

Aerbil313|2 years ago

Pretty understandable, since all of Israel is stolen land, while Jews, Christians and Muslims were living in the are peacefully before that in the Islamic era. HN doesn't seem to be aware of that the Nakba happened. Here's a demonstration of the "settlement" process from Guardian: https://youtu.be/ksnLom8OD9E?si=aYvcLqcLQK960fbx

wahnfrieden|2 years ago

The Hamas charter literally agrees with it explicitly.

shashashasha___|2 years ago

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hbt|2 years ago

When Israel controls the food intake of a population (The Gaza Diet) through a complete blockade, Israel doesn't get to claim they withdrew or respect the sovereignty of the Palestinian people.

Israel tried to do in Gaza what they did in the West Bank. Carve it up, control key resources, create settlements through terrorism and encroach daily on Palestinian territory.

Their settler-colonial crimes are well documented in the West Bank but Israel didn't have enough people and resources at the time to carry crimes both in the West Bank and Gaza.