[kriskrunch]

The irony is Wozniak and Jobs manufactured and sold devices, called Blue Boxes, that hacked the phone system to provide free phone calls.

> "If it hadn't been for the Blue Boxes, there would have been no Apple. I'm 100% sure of that." -Steve Jobs

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[graeme]

Sure, but no one was arguing that ought to have been legal or that the phone system would be in the wrong to attempt to patch exploits found by hacking.

Their Blue Box efforts were very cool! So is the coding that let Beeper do this.

But it is mystifying to me that people are arguing it is illegitimate (under our current system) for Apple to try to secure its system.

[sahila]

The irony is people are rooting for a company (Apple) which only exists because it did something similar like Beeper early on, but root against Beeper. Apple is its present and history.