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kokken | 2 years ago

I’m sure the industry has standards for assigning blame, but it looks to me that ATC is clearly being assholes here.

Even from this article that clearly seems to think Lufthansa is in the wrong I walked away with a feeling that ATC and small town cops are one and the same.

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dxf|2 years ago

The current top comment on the article explains the situation, and ATC are "not being assholes here":

>NorCal had a new interpretation of ILS approaches come down several months ago that tied the controllers hands with regards to ILS approaches during visual conditions... The controllers were issued guidelines that if it’s busy and an aircraft is unable to comply with the approaches advertised on the atis or maintain visual separation that its better to hold them until there is adequate space on final as it’s more unsafe to start vectoring 30/40 different aircraft to build the required hole for the 1 aircraft who’s company has a lame rule

JAlexoid|2 years ago

The ATC should have just told them that, from the get go. They know exactly how many aircraft are headed their way, the pilot doesn't

Zetobal|2 years ago

Just tell the pilots that the ATC in NorCAL is also bound to policies and they have to divert. No need to be a dick.

durandal1|2 years ago

Norcal is an amazing bunch of people with a high stress life-and-death job. They're incredibly accommodating, but when the system is at capacity it's at capacity. SFO is a very special airport with a traffic flow much higher than its footprint would normally allow. Since there is pretty nowhere for it to expand, the only option would be to reduce the number of slot times, which for a business hub like SFO would be terrible.

kayodelycaon|2 years ago

ATC wasn’t been an asshole. The airspace was extremely busy and there wasn’t space between arriving flights for anyone to make an instrument landing.

In order to make instrument landing, dozens of other planes would have to be moved out of the way.

sccxy|2 years ago

ATC was more incompetent than asshole.

wkipling|2 years ago

Yeah but that's their job