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41 points| devrsi0n | 2 years ago |quotion.co | reply

Hi HN, I’m an indie hacker who quit my job as a software engineer at Microsoft in early October to start my own business. Like many others, I really like Apple Notes. I got inspired by https://montaigne.io, a service that creates websites, blogs, or portfolios using Apple Notes. I liked the idea, but the websites looked too plain for me. So, the first product I shipped after quitting is https://quotion.co – a website that turns your Apple Notes into beautiful blogs. The best part? You get custom domain, customizable branding and web analytics for free, while Montaigne charges $12 per month. I hope Quotion will be as helpful to you as it has been for me. Please let me know if you have any questions or feedback.

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[+] podviaznikov|2 years ago|reply
I made https://montaigne.io.

Funny to see a product inspired by my service.

It is quite challenging to do this one technically - eg way more difficult than to do website builder on top of Notion - so good luck.

[+] devrsi0n|2 years ago|reply
Thank you! Montaigne is really amazing! Quotion can't make it without montaigne!
[+] ko3us|2 years ago|reply
I love Montaigne! I’ve been using it for a while now. It’s so easy!
[+] oneearedrabbit|2 years ago|reply
Two years ago I got carried away and built a tool with a code name "notespub". It is the very same idea, albeit less polished. I documented my journey of extracting content out of Apple Notes, which naturally has been published with Notes as well [1].

I thought this was a cute idea; however, as I started using it more, I inevitably learned that there are features that are hard to mingle in Notes alone, i.e. custom themes, metadata, automatically generated home page, top/side navigation, cross-references, etc. These features could be implemented with an external system that helps you to manage a blog, yet that ruined the idea that I wanted a tool that puts local & privacy above everything else, a tool that has as little dependencies as possible.

Long story short, I started working on the second iteration that I thought wouldn't sacrifice privacy, but eventually shelved and haven't completed it. I guess it is time to open-source it.

[1] https://devlog.notespub.com/2022/08/site-generator-for-apple...

[+] devrsi0n|2 years ago|reply
Thanks for sharing, in fact I did read your post to dig into tech details, thank you for your work. Actually, Quotion sites can be customized in Apple Notes directly, check it out: https://docs.quotion.co/features/customize-layout . Other things like colors, fonts, they all can be achieved with similar format. Looking forward to your launch, :)
[+] jarym|2 years ago|reply
This looks pretty nice. Not sure how large the market will be (whether it will be enough to sustain your needs, etc.).

With the right integrations this could be a nice alternative to Medium/Substack. I'm a really occasional blogger though so I don't think I'd ever pay $29/month. I sense it might be easier to charge for things that can be monetised by your user base (e.g. if people want newsletters, paid subscribers, maybe subscriber-only content, etc.)

Good luck with it!

[+] devrsi0n|2 years ago|reply
Thank you for the feedback; it means a lot to me. As you mentioned, Medium/Substack is indeed my ultimate target. But for now, my focus is on ensuring the service is stable and feature-rich. Regarding the pricing, I agree that it may have been a bit overpriced compared to the current feature set. I've just reduced the Pro plan to $19 per month and the Enterprise plan from $199 to $99. I intend to maintain this pricing for early adopters while continuing to add more features, hope it makes sense.
[+] illegalmemory|2 years ago|reply
Apple does not allow access to iCloud services through any automated script, scraper, or similar means [1]. Are you sure you're complying with these terms? As a customer, it's important to consider this (think of the Beeper case).

[1] https://www.apple.com/legal/internet-services/icloud/

>i. interfere with or disrupt the Service (including accessing the Service through any automated means, like scripts or web crawlers), or any servers or networks connected to the Service, or any policies, requirements or regulations of networks connected to the Service (including any unauthorized access to, use or monitoring of data or traffic thereon);

[+] devrsi0n|2 years ago|reply
Right, thanks for sharing your concerns. Quotion didn't use scripts to scrape notes with iCloud API, although I did dig into that direction, but it's a dead end.
[+] mrweasel|2 years ago|reply
Isn't your pricing a little of? The free offer seems really good, but the $29 to "just" remove branding feels really high, if you don't need to other stuff in that bundle, especially compared to the $12 as montaigne.io.
[+] devrsi0n|2 years ago|reply
Hi mrweasel, I've just reduced the Pro plan to $19 per month and the Enterprise plan from $199 to $99. Does this make sense to you? Will you consider it if you need to build a blog site?
[+] devrsi0n|2 years ago|reply
Thanks for the feedback, I'm reconsidering the pricing as well. 29 might be too high compare to our current feature set, maybe $19 fair enough?
[+] pimlottc|2 years ago|reply
How are you getting content out of Apple Notes?
[+] devrsi0n|2 years ago|reply
This is the biggest secrete of Quotion, it took me months to figure out how to read/parse Apple Notes content correctly. I may write a blog post about the overview of tech
[+] todotask|2 years ago|reply
Alternative to Pro and Enterprise, they can engage a freelancer to setup a blog site with WordPress. That's a good thing.
[+] howmayiannoyyou|2 years ago|reply
I really like this. I think the pricing is too high so I won't be using it, but really love the concept.
[+] devrsi0n|2 years ago|reply
Thank you for the feedback. Which plan do you think is overpriced? We have a free plan with 5K pageview per month, maybe it's not big enough for influencers, but it's a good start.
[+] cvhashim04|2 years ago|reply
Could you include a demo or video? Hard to understand what's going on just with images.
[+] devrsi0n|2 years ago|reply
Sure, that's in my plan. Will launch a video soon.