[TerrifiedMouse]

> Yes and even within that they are risk averse, no need to look beyond 10nm and their reluctance to EUV.

Actually from what I heard, their failures with their Intel 7 was partly due to trying too many unproven technologies - i.e. they pulled a Zumwalt. With their current Intel 4 & 3 I heard they were more conservative.

[bonton89]

Intel actually had trouble getting 14nm off the ground and it was late to ramp up, that should have been a signal that past progress might be coming to an end. I believe that when things got difficult managements response was to try to catch back up by going crazy on the 10nm jump and it went horribly.

What was more shocking is how long them seemed to be in denial before putting contingency plans in place.

[FirmwareBurner]

>their failures with their Intel 7 was partly due to trying too many unproven technologies

Everything about bleeding edge semi fabbing is unproven technology.