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Dinux | 2 years ago

Sofar I've owned 4 Tesla cars and never had any serious issues that were not addressed immediately. My current Model Y had a cracked roof, they replaced the glass within a couple or hours. Here in The Netherlands inspections are mandatory for all cars every 1/2 years. I've noticed the tires may not be as durable as they should be but no idea how they stack up against another EV.

Anything you use and use a lot needs maintenance, especially if you rely on it, that goes for you're electric toothbrush as wel as your car. Its a utopica to think EVs somehow need less upkeep.

Sure build quality can be improved here and there, and over the last 4 years I have seen Tesla's cars become better. To me regular OTA updates, up-to-date map, apps, an actual working charging network and range are more important than having all the panels aligned withing a couple of milimeters.

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TheAlchemist|2 years ago

But ... why ? Why did you have 4 Teslas in ~10 years ?

I'm really curious, why are you buying an electric car in the first place ?

Cause it's sure as hell not for the sake of saving the planet.

bagels|2 years ago

Probably the same reason people go through a BMW every few years: leasing cars so you are always driving new cars.

ricardobeat|2 years ago

> why are you buying an electric car in the first place

When you compare the current Model 3 feature-wise to most other brands, it's a no brainer. You need to fork out a lot more than 50k to get the assist and safety features, leather seats, seat heating, power seats, cameras, sound system, heated steering wheel, matrix headlights, backseat control screen, 4wd, performance and so on. Not having to deal with sales people and regular maintenance are bonuses.

And if you're in Europe, you charge it a home or on street parking with no hassle of going to a charging/gas station.

foepys|2 years ago

I assume that you only drove each car 3 years max?

After 3 years a car has to be inspected for the first time by law in Germany. Maybe you just didn't know something was wrong? Because usually people have their car inspected before going to the mandatory "Hauptuntersuchung" (HU) which Tesla apparently doesn't recommend, thus Teslas failing the HU en masse.

hef19898|2 years ago

There is anecdata and data. The TÜV Süd report is the latter.

consp|2 years ago

The low friction tires are less durable afaik. I've noticed this in practice with the comparison between my plugin and others full electric which almost always have those kind of tires. N=1 of course.

Edit: also, the APK is only after the first 4 years, and does not check things like brake fluid (which you should replace now and then) and things like bearing wear unless it becomes so obvious that it is affecting driving chacteristics. The APK does not check a lot of wear and tear so you should still do regular checkups.

Edit: maintenance is not mandatory. Only when it would be in violation of the APK, and by that time you damaged more than you should have.

somedude895|2 years ago

I have a 2017 Model S and two of my buddies bought Model 3/Ys two years ago, neither of us ever had any serious issues, except for the random rattle in the cabin every now and then. The finish is clearly not very high quality, but the car and all the systems have worked flawlessly so far.

Although the submission title says "Faults by Car Brand", the article is actually about specific models, where Tesla's Model 3 scored the lowest.

rkuodys|2 years ago

I think report by TUV does not differentiate how quickly problem is solved. The issue is that problems are frequent. When buying new car I don't want to go to service more than once a year. Twice at most.

philjackson|2 years ago

4 cars in 10 years is 3 cars too many.

JumpCrisscross|2 years ago

> 4 cars in 10 years is 3 cars too many

If you’re constantly totalling them, sure. If you’re re-selling, it’s totally fine to show a preference for new vehicles. I don’t. But I also don’t care that much for cars or driving; to each their own.

Avshalom|2 years ago

>never had any serious issues that were not addressed immediately.

okay but how many serious issues have you had?

Dalewyn|2 years ago

>Its a utopica to think EVs somehow need less upkeep.

EVs objectively need less upkeep compared to engine cars because a substantial portion of maintaining a car is related to the engine and transmission.

An EV still requires maintenance like repressurizing tires; replacement of worn out tires, brakes, and wiper blades; refilling of fluids like the windshield cleaner; and so on in addition to anything EV specific, but that's all still far less compared to engine cars.

roflyear|2 years ago

Having any serious issues with a few years old car is a problem. Id consider that a lemon. If you've had that experience multiple times from the same manufacturer...

floodle|2 years ago

n=1

Dinux|2 years ago

Well, N=4 in this case. But sure its no research