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krukah | 2 years ago

> Let's assume that the brakes are working at their limit, and as they do so, they are shedding energy at a maximum rate that doesn't change. The cars are identical, so they are both shedding energy at the same rate per unit distance.

Interesting (and I think very reasonable) first-order assumption. Maybe to second-order, the calculation could assume the braking force is proportional to velocity, which I think is roughly true of friction generally, but is also harder to model.

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bell-cot|2 years ago

IANAE (...not an engineer), but "braking force is proportional to velocity" is not how brakes, or friction, work.

purpleflame1257|2 years ago

No, but it is how first-order atmospheric drag is modeled, which may be what confused the GP comment.

Karellen|2 years ago

> > they are both shedding energy at the same rate per unit distance.

> Interesting (and I think very reasonable) first-order assumption.

Really? That triggered alarm bells in my head immediately. I mean, it might be true, but I'd need to do the math to figure it out one way or another.

> the calculation could assume the braking force is proportional to velocity, which I think is roughly true of friction generally

Again, not my intuition at all. I'd have gone with the braking force being constant at non-zero velocity. (And force is variable up to the limit of static friction when at zero velocity.)

calfuris|2 years ago

Your intuition about braking force matches the thing that triggered alarm bells in your head: work = force x distance, so if the force is approximately constant the kinetic energy dissipated will be approximately constant per unit distance.