[horusthegame]

> You can perfectly self-host while using an outgoing SMTP provider.

That's mostly selfhosting, not fully selfhosting. I full selfhost my email, I 100% control as much of it as is possible to do. When I send an email to someone, it goes from my client to my server and out to the recipient's server.

[mrb]

Still, I don't understand why someone who was self-hosting for 23 years suddenly abandons everything, instead of going "mostly self-hosting".

I genuinely think some people are not aware you can have free, reliable, outgoing SMTP providers.

[justsomehnguy]

How often do you check TLS certs the recipient' server provides?

And you can have an additional route just for some recipients, that doesn't make it less (or more) selfhosting.